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From: [e-mail] (James Hastings-Trew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.graphics.apps.alias
Subject: Re: Is computer art cheating?
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 23:32:31 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Jeffrey Kurland <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I agree with James Hastings-Trew but there's an issue here which is not
>resolved.
>It it the relation of the computer to art. Can something which is first and last
>digital sustain something which is at core metaphorical (art). Previous, and
>conventional mediums are analogical at core and hence are metaphorical
>mediums.

While there are some art theories that go so far as to say that the medium
is as important as the content (imagery, composition, colour, space) this
is a particularly modern theory. It goes against the bulk of art history
where the medium used was irrelevant to the presentation of the
art/image/idea. Does it matter if the painting you are looking at was done
in egg tempra vs. oils vs. acrylic? Would the content of the painting
dictate to a degree the media used? Some artists would state emphatically,
"Yes!" However, I have travelled in art circles, and know that those who
make these statements are usually ignorant of any medium other than the one
they chose/stumbled onto -- the "perfect" medium for their work is the one
they have always/will always use -- how convenient. How many current art
school graduates have even used oil paints or egg tempra, now that the
horrid and flat acrylic has all but taken over?

Choice of media certainly is one of the esthetic choices I alluded to in my
eariler arguments. Why choose the computer to convey a certain content --
i.e. is it the most appropriate medium for a particular purpose? As in all
arts, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes it is important, and sometimes
it isn't. I would be suspicious of a digital artist who always uses the
same tool, no matter what the content or message of the work is. As the old
saying goes, "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a
nail." This is how bad art often gets created, digital or not.

Certainly as a media the computer is more suited to the art of animation
than any other media -- it is the right esthetic choice in the overwhelming
majority of cases. What example of animation art couldn't be done better on
the computer now than with crude cells and paint. Precious little I'd
wager.

As a work of art, have a look at Tim Burton's "Nightmare Before Christmas"
-- the use of the computer in various segments of this masterpiece is
perfect -- the ultimate choice of media perfectly joined with the content
of the piece, while the other techniques used are also perfect esthetic
choices. This film would not have been the same had it been done entirely
with stop motion/claymation or entirely with computers, or entirely with
cell animation. In this film the right tools were used for the right
things, and it all works so beautifully. Digital artists sometimes get so
caught up in bashing everthing with the same computer hammer they forget
that there are sometimes better tools to achieve a better end. After "Toy
Story" could "Nightmare" have been done in the same way, or will there now
be pressure to do these kinds of films in a purely digital way?

>Digital technologies are fundamentally different--they are marvelous
>tools of replication not representation. Replication is inauthentic,
>non-original, ersatz. In that, it is thououghly post-modern, very much of our time.

This does not cut any ice with me. I got my fine-arts degree in
printmaking, a set of media that is by its very nature a
reproductive/replicative one. Is a Durher etching any less of a work of art
than a DaVinci drawing, even though multiple copies exist of one, while
only one exists of the other? It also raises an interesting point -- is art
reproduced in coffee-table and text-books not "art" simply because the
content is conveyed by a different media? Is the tangible, unique piece of
workmanship the art, or is the image/idea conveyed the art? Is music on a
CD, or is music only to be found in the concert hall? I wonder, because
your choices here do have ramifications for art which is by its very nature
replicated -- all digitial art, all performance art, all recorded music.

>I don't
>think it can sustain tragic content. We won't be seeing any Rothko's on the web.

You have not surfed far or deep enough. There is some very tragic material
on the web, some of it intentional.


James Hastings-Trew
System Administrator
Mister Print Productions Ltd., Saskatoon, SK, Canada


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Memory chip problems simms from my Amiga in my IBM
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>In article <47mkhk$[e-mail]> "Harry H. Chang" <[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: "Harry H. Chang" <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Re: Memory chip problems simms from my Amiga in my IBM
>>Date: 7 Nov 1995 03:41:40 GMT
>
>>[e-mail] (John Foust) wrote:
>>>In article <471p49$[e-mail]>, Jack Campbell <[e-mail]> says:
>>>>Why wont the 16meg 60ns 72pin simms work in my Pentium.
>>>>I even turned the parity off and it still doesnt make any diffrence.
>>>>What is different about the chips I had on my Warp engine.
>
>>Well, I was at one of my local computer shop and they were assembling a
pentium
>>system.  The system had 16 mb of memory by using 2 8mb 72 pin simm.
>>I was curious why they are putting 2 8mb simms rather than 1 16mb simm,
because
>>I knew 1 16mb is cheaper than 2 8mb simms.  Their answer was that because
>>pentium
>>has 64 bit datapath or something so that you can not use 16mb simm.
>>but you can use 16mb simm on 486dx machines because it use 32bit data path
or
>>something like that.
>
>>I don't really understand the theory behind it but the point is simple.
>>If you have 64bit chip like pentium, you cannot use 16mb simm.
>
>>--

>
>I think you got a "half" truth there.  With Pentiums, you must use two simms.
>That's where the 64 bit path stuff comes into play.  So you can use 16mb
simms
>(my P100 has two).  All (or damn near all) Pentium systems require two 72-pin
>simms.  That could be two 4mb simms or two 32 mb simms.
>
>I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that the Warp engines use some type of
>custom simm.
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Walter (Jay) Turberville   |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

No, the Warp Engine simms are standard simms - I put mine straight from the
Amiga into my Pentium. The GVP accelerators I think are the ones with wierd
RAM.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart TAS OZ

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Alphachannels and Stencil....
Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:03:18 GMT
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In article <47pspl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ole Gunnar Dokka) says:
>
>[e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville ) wrote:
>
>>>>       Photoshop will load IFF images.  HiJaak will convert 'em.
>>>Actually, Photoshop 3.04 will NOT load 8bit IFF`s ....it needs a
>>>palette for this, and its not in the header. I`ve tried...24bit IFF`s
>>>are no problem though...
>
>>That's strange.  Photoshop 3.0 loads them fine.  I made one using Paint Shop
>>Pro and Image Alchemy.  Photoshop liked them just fine.  So did LightWave.  I
>>use Alchemy for bulk image conversions.  Yes, its a DOS program.  But the
>>funny thing is that it has NEVER crashed, it supported 24 bit .iff before
>>Hijaak did, and the company that makes it never lied to me like the Hijaak
>>folks did.
>All right, you MADE one using Paint Shop Pro etc, and Photoshop liked
>them..thats fine - but is really beside the point. The 8bit IFF
>Lightwave *produces* is the issue here - it does not have a palette in
>the header, and that causes the problem.
>
>If you find a way to open the 8bit IFF`s Lightwave-output, I really
>like to hear about it...
>

Ok - my goof for keeping track of the original problem.  Image Alchemy (my good
old DOS based standby) will convert LightWave 8-bit iffs (alpha-mattes) to
8 bit iffs with a color map.  No special steps, just tell it to make the .iff
an Amiga ILBM.  PaintShop Pro will read the converted file and so too did
Lightwave.  I'll see if Elastic Reality's Transjammer will read the LW 8-bit
latter on tonight.  I'm pretty sure that I used ER to make a 32 bit targa
that comtained the main image and the alpha matte.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.getnet.com/studio522/ |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Phoenix, Arizona .......................................................

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From: [e-mail] (Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Mac?
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 17:06:28 -0600
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
Crookshank) wrote:

> On 04-Nov-95 00:52:03, Walter (Jay) Turberville  ([e-mail])
posted:
>
> > BTW - I heard this week that Apple passed IBM in sales and is now number
> > 2 in  total microcomputer sells.
>
> Erhmmm, too bad they only have 8% market share now. Your "source" would
> then indicate that IBM has less than 8% market share?
>

I think you miss read that. He said "sales", as in current sales, as in
what they did last quarter type sales. in which case it is very
possible to pass IBM in sales.

According to an Apple sales rep, this last quarter Power Mac's out sold
ALL other RISC workstations COMBINED!

Granted that is only one quarter's sales, and  I haven't verified those
sales figures, but even if it is only half right it sort of puts on big
wet one on Mr. SGI's theory that everybody is abandoning Mac's for PC's.

No Mr. SGI is most likely just feeling Apple breathing down his neck.
A PM 8500 for $4k with video in _and_ out, workstation level spec marks,
a $400 Quickdraw 3d acellerator PCI card. Possible port of Lightwave 3d,
Apple licensing clones right and left (possibly even AT). Yeah I'd say
Mr. SGI is just _wishing_ that Apple will go away.

<<<<=======================================================================
    Richard Norman                              [e-mail]
      AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation
          Amiga Networking FAQ   /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh
                          Inputs appreciated!
=======================================================================>>>>

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From: [e-mail] (jfaris)
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Subject: Re: Is computer art cheating?
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(James Hastings-Trew) wrote:

(some body copy deleted)
> None of the proposed definitions of art that I have heard mention the tools
> required to produce that art as part of the criteria. The tool is
> irrelevant. A photographic camera is just as capable of reproducing "neat
> surfaces and textures" as is a piece of computer software. The tool does
> not define what it produces... the artist does.

I agree that the artist defines what the tool produces.  But, the tool is
by no means irrelevant.  The artist's choice of the tool has everything to
do with it.

> Esthetic choice is something fundamental to humanity. When you buy a tie,
> you are making esthetic choices. When you select a font to use in your web
> browser you are making an esthetic choice. Which cool texture to use, on
> what objects, at what level of detail, with what colour, with what lighting
> setup, from what camera angle, in what composition, etc. etc. embody a
> multitude of esthetic choices, which, when their sum is greater than their
> parts, transform from garbage, to illustration, to pure art. This is not
> controlled by software... but by the esthetic sensibilities of the artist
> using that software.

I couldn't agree more.  Well stated.

> Those of you who are producing art on computer (at whatever level on the
> scale from garbage to art) who have not been exposed to the history of the
> visual arts may be in for a shock. Concepts such as "abstract
> expressionism" which eliminated the requirement of technical skill (i.e.
> the ability to draw a straight line or any recognizable shape), or "found
> art" which eliminated even the need to create the artifact at all, all
> point to the inevitable conclusion that art is simply about esthetic
> choices, nothing more. Exposure to different forms of art is fundamental to
> your own growth... to your own ability to make these esthetic choices... to
> where on the continuum from garbage to art your particular output can
> aspire.

Yes, but I still disagree -- "art is simply about aesthetic choices,
nothing more".  Maybe to an illustrator, who only renders reality,  art is
only about this. I would be extremely disappointed if this was all there
was.  What about passion?
  I am only speaking for myself here: Any of my work that was based solely
on aesthetics alone are usually just spit-outs (produced quickly with fast
decisions due to a strict deadline).  I am not at all proud of that work.
Aesthetics are always a large part of the decision;However, concept,
emotions, associations, etc. are just as important.

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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: DEMO REELS
Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:54:12 GMT
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>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(candyman) wrote:

>>
>>         What kinda copyright/legal protection..gotta clear stuff with
>> clients ya know....:)

>Always have that cleared up before yopu start a project.  Our contract
>states that we will be able to use the finish work for any kind of self
>promotion.  There are only very few exceptions we make to this.

>Bottom line:  Protect yourself up front so you don't get it in the rear later

>No offense to anyone by that last comment.

>Bill Leonard
>[e-mail]
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>                               cyber.lab g.f.x.
>  3D Animation * Modeling * Special Effects * Station ID Packages * Pre-Viz

>                                 407.425.5722
>                  http://www.magicnet.net/~bill_l/top.html
>_____________________________________________________________________________


:) I hear ya our contract actually has that clause as well ..but like
posted most of my tech anims are for proprietary oilfield and department
of defence.etc...oh well guess I'll have traded artistic liscence for
cash....hmm actually put it that way..:_)


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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Mac?
Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:54:13 GMT
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>[e-mail] (AppleTec) wrote:

>>I use LW4.0 on Amiga's but have been wondering if anyone heard of the
>>possibility of a Mac version?


>>Ethan Goodman
>>EYECANDY ANIMATION
>>EMAIL [e-mail]

>We are still in preliminary discussions with Apple. No official word,
>still researching the possibilities.

>BP

AOL flame...damn good thing not Mind Candy animation..would make me
pissed...oh well thats aol..



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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW CrACK
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>In <47p0og$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>I've got the program. Any of you have a crack for it?
>>I'll trade any program(s) i've got:
>>
>>3D Studio R4
>>3ds IPAS
>>KPT
>>Adobe Photoshop
>>Altamira Composer
>>Borland C++
>>Noron Anti-Virus
>>Norton Utilities
>>Eudora pro
>>Digital Morph
>>Gallery Effects
>>
>>
>Victor....take it somewhere else.


>goodbye.


hmm I hear that real pirates have final releases b4 most usually , I guess
only lamers who have no friends or life post looking for cracks...lots of
nice friends in jail there ..I am sure one of them will find your crack
anyway...


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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Mac?
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>>   [e-mail] (Bill Leonard) writes:
>
>>  Not that Apple wouldn't benefit from Lightwave, but lets face it.. NewTek
>>  needs Apple far more than Apple needs NewTek.

>    Oh, yeah, NewTek really has to suck up to that colossus that bestrides
>    the computing world with, what, 10% of the machines?

>    "But all the artist have macs...yadda yadda yadda" -- If NewTek needs
>    ANYBODY, it's DEC.


>>  [e-mail]

>    Damn, sucked into the Eternal Vortex AGAIN!

>*****************************************************************************
>** [e-mail]                   |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   *
>** Welcome to Seattle, have a latte'!      | Technical Subjects a Specialty!*
>** Don't make me force it down your throat..........(look!  3 lines!)       *

      Yup one look at satan I mean bill gates shaking hands with bob
palmer(head of dec) in fortune magazine and it makes one ponder what
machine to follow



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From: [e-mail] (Larry Bernstein)
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Subject: Re: Zip Drive?
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>
>>
>>: >You didn't get a zip yet? good buy the JAZZ drive 1 gig internal for $469
>>: >and the carts are $119
>>: >chuck
>>: >

Where did you find the JAZ drive at $469??? I put an order in with
a place for over $500!

Thanx

---------
Larry "Alwayslookingtosaveabuck" Bernstein


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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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Subject: Re: What's up with TEXT?
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>[e-mail] (candyman) wrote:

>>      try shift-w,o,return,cntl-a

>Yes, thank you! not... I mean the inner bit of the "o" is not a "hole"
>but something messy. I want to look through a "O"!!!

>Is it because of truetype?

    hmm why not just load an o from both types and look.. or better yet
extrude a disc and boolean it out...




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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 manuals
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>In article <47o31g$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kinju) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Kinju)
>>Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 manuals
>>Date: 7 Nov 1995 11:55:12 -0500

>> My biggest complaint is how these books were bound.  Why don't they have
>>spiral bindings so you can lay the book down and read it.  My manuals
>>falling appart. Its hard to read and interact with your computer when you
>>have to hold your book a certain way.  I don't mean to bitch but it's
>>something pretty simple that could be changed.  Ihave seen alot of
>>postings on getting Avi's to work. I have ver 4.0 on win 32s.  How do you
>>save animations! Back to the books......hey where did that page go?

>Perhaps the manuals aren't perfect, but they are a definite improvement over
>the past.  I like the smaller format, coated paper and I find mine lay
>reasonably flat and aren't falling apart (yet?).  I did notice that the glued
>binding on my manuals seemed crude, but they are holding up so far.  That
>slick paper seems to lay pretty flat for me (smells good too).  I like to use
>one of those little wire bookholders to prop up books on my desk.  You can
>pick one up at B. Dalton's for 2 or 3 bucks.  They fold up and take up very
>little space when not in use.

>The previous three ring binder was too big and pages would fall out of it.  I
>would agree that a TRUE spiral binding would be a very good alternative, but
>DO NOT want one of those wire bindings that aren't a true spiral.  They sort
>of clamp and are a pain in the butt. My Imagine manual has one and - I hate
>it.  I like the Perception's spiral binding.

>_________________________________________________________________
>Walter (Jay) Turberville   |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>Phoenix, AZ                |http://www.getnet.com/studio522/
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>............................|ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

yes well at least it is better than the original ones that came with the
toaster...and now i see there are rendered avi's of all the sample
scenes..maybe its just me but seems a lot easier to learn lw now a days..


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[e-mail] wrote:

>>  Once you see Max doing a
>>  real time boolean in color shaded mode while you position the objects
>>  (the demonstration I saw showed a cube deforming appropriately as the
>>  operator positioned a sphere for his boolean....amazing), you'll >>  never
>>  look at the slow Lightwave modeler in the same way again.  I
>>  definitely get the inpression that Lightwave needs to at least start
>>  supporting some of the 3D A.P.I.s for Windows NT and '95 for better
>>  refresh rate and to allow operation in color shaded modes.

At the VTU Expo, the Carrera Computers stand had a demo of a couple of
colour shaded spaceships rotating around in realtime under mouse control.
The guy there said it was done using Open GL and the capability would be
part of a version 4.1 update.

Looks like your wish will come true.

John.



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]>
>Subject: PAR, will it work on PC?
>Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:21:45 -0500

>I've got an Amiga PAR board.  Since it goes into the PC slot of my Amiga,
>will it work in a PC if I got the right software for it>
>
>thanx for any help
>Josh Tsui

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure its the TBC-II thru IV that goes into
the PC slot and WILL work in either a PC or an Amiga.  I think the PAR uses a
Zorro-II slot.


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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
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[e-mail] (Elfwork) wrote:


>(Just yesterday, I started building the IK structure for it. Once I'm
>done, I might consider uploading the IK scene file for anyone
>interested....Of course Tim has probably already done a much better job
>than I....)
>
I'd be interested in that scene file!


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Dean Oliver <[e-mail]> writes:

>Nope, sorry to say it wont work in your PC. Unlike the TBC-IV,
>each PAR is specific to the platform.
>
>Dean Oliver
>Virtually Real
>

boy do i feel stupid!  i just got the PAR board and realized it was a
zorro card (duhhhh!).

disregard my display of stupidity

Josh Tsui

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From: [e-mail]
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What steps does one take to output LW4.0 .tga sequences directly
to the PVR?  Translating the tga's in manually is both time consuming
and eats up lots of system SCSI.

TIA

marc
[e-mail]


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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>In article <47aniq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Foust)
writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
>>
>>In other words, *I* could be Beavis or Butthead!  :-)
>>- John
>
>Hmmm . . . let me guess which one.  :^)

Actually, my snotty little brothers-in-law say that I look
more like the touchy-feely hippy science teacher on B&B...

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)
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Subject: Textures for dinos?
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In a message dated 11-07-95 at 11:11, LUKE PIASECKI wrote:

LP>Hi there, I'm trying to render and later animate some realistic looking
LP>dinosaurs. For the objects I think I'll go for Jurassic collection (for LW
LP>) or try to modell something similar on Real3D 3.3. My main problem are
LP>the textures... what kind of and where could I get them from? I have no
LP>idea how to "texture" a dino object so it looks almost as realistic as the
LP>ones in Jurassic Park...please help me. Where can I get them from? Also I
LP>have to my disposal Imagine 3.3 and Forge with Essence so I could render
LP>some of the textures and use them as brush maps in LW or Real3D, the
LP>problem again is which ones and how...

In LW 4.0 try using the crumple texture as a bump map with a texture size of
1.0, number of scales 4, small power 2, and an amplitude of 25%. Also use
bump array in either the color or diffuse channel with a radius of
.01,spacing .005, and bump strength -.5. On the Jurrasic T-Rex it looks good
to me, and because it's all algorithmic you want have any problems fitting
an image map onto a curved surface.


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From: Lonnie Watson <harlock>
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Subject: Re: Memory chip problems simms from my Amiga in my IBM
Date: 9 Nov 1995 04:33:12 GMT
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Perhaps you have already heard this but you can use 16 meg sims in a pentium
notice I said sims (plural). The pentium is a 64 bit to ram machine ( 72 pin
sim units allow 32 bits for data thus you need to create a 64 bit data bus in
ram so you need 2 72pin sims. Thus you can use 2 8's for 16 megs or you can use
2 4's for 8 megs (yuck only 8 megs!) or you can use 2 16's for 32 megs of
ram...
                >Lonnie Allen Watson<


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From: [e-mail] (H.R. Laser)
Subject: Re: VTU Expo
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ASK ME NICELY ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Besides, Los Angeles is the armpit of the earth :)
:
: Josh Tsui

Hard to argue with that, and I've lived in SoCal since 1956. But I'll
tell ya, Josh, I took an AmTrak trip from  LA > Chicago in '93 and
I'll never in my life forget what the ass-end of Chiago looked like
as the train pulled into Union Station.  Bombed-out graffiti-covered
multi-story buildings with not one intact glass windoww
that compared very nicely with the worst news footage you've ever
seen come out of Beiruit or Bosnia.  At any minute I was expecting
the mutants to leap out and attack our train.

I live in Torrance which is about a 40 mile drive to Universal
City wher the Expo was held.  Almost two hours to go each way. I spent
more time getting to/from the Expo than I did at the show itself.

On the way home, I took what I thought was a shortcut and somehow
ended up next to Hollywood High School just as it was letting out
for the day. Big mistake. As I was stuck in gridlock watching
a couple thousand kids in their fashionable gang uniforms jay-walk
at snail's pace across every nearby street, I could almost hear
the metal detectors beeping. Wondered how many of them could
read their own diplomas when they graduate, as the saying goes.

Then the irony of comparing that scene with the absolutely
pristine Hilton hotel I had just left... remembering the
spotless Maitre'D in the restaurant spotlessly arranging
napkins between fine glassware on his spotless tables, on the
spotless floor, mere miles from this made-for-HBO nightmare
of a high school scene I couldn't help but laugh.

I'd prefer if the VTU Expo was held down Anaheim way. More stuff
to do for show-goers, cleaner town, better streets, and no
20 degree-grade blind-corner hills to navigate. :)

Harv                                       |  "Do you recognize the
[e-mail]                        |  Bell of Truth when you
http://www.portal.com/~harv                |  hear it ring?"
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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: 3D StudioMax
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:31:26
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In article <47r545$[e-mail]> John Brandwood <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: John Brandwood <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: 3D StudioMax
>Date: 8 Nov 1995 20:49:08 GMT

>[e-mail] wrote:

>>>  Once you see Max doing a
>>>  real time boolean in color shaded mode while you position the objects
>>>  (the demonstration I saw showed a cube deforming appropriately as the
>>>  operator positioned a sphere for his boolean....amazing), you'll >>  never
>>>  look at the slow Lightwave modeler in the same way again.  I
>>>  definitely get the inpression that Lightwave needs to at least start
>>>  supporting some of the 3D A.P.I.s for Windows NT and '95 for better
>>>  refresh rate and to allow operation in color shaded modes.

>At the VTU Expo, the Carrera Computers stand had a demo of a couple of
>colour shaded spaceships rotating around in realtime under mouse control.
>The guy there said it was done using Open GL and the capability would be
>part of a version 4.1 update.

According to a couple of reliable and knowledgeable types on the LW mail list,
the shaded preview does not even require OpenGL--though it helps.

In any case, I *think* both Win95 and NT support software emuation of
OpenGL--NT, for sure. And we ought to be seeing OpenGL hardware acceleration,
even better, in video cards that will be appearing within the next three or
four months.

Supposedly, Newtek will make the patch available by ftp.

Now we need something similar in Layout...






Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: Textures for dinos?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)  writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)
>Subject: Textures for dinos?
>Date: 8 Nov 95 19:15:00 GMT


>In a message dated 11-07-95 at 11:11, LUKE PIASECKI wrote:

>LP>Hi there, I'm trying to render and later animate some realistic looking
>LP>dinosaurs. For the objects I think I'll go for Jurassic collection (for LW
>LP>) or try to modell something similar on Real3D 3.3. My main problem are
>LP>the textures... what kind of and where could I get them from?

>In LW 4.0 try using the crumple texture as a bump map with a texture size of
>1.0, number of scales 4, small power 2, and an amplitude of 25%. Also use
>bump array in either the color or diffuse channel with a radius of
>.01,spacing .005, and bump strength -.5.

Yep, a procedural texture is the way to go.

Some other possibilities among the presets that come with LW 4.0:
"Cauliflower" (play w/color values); "cracked"  or "disgusting" for that
reptilian skin look. Maybe even "peas."

Yech...


Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (BigFatCHUK)
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1 GIG Maxoptics SCSI 2 external optical drive for sale w/ 2 carts $500
compatible with 1 GIG, 650mb and 600mb carts.
I used the optical drive to render frames to, works great, I'll throw in
COREL SCSI to boot!
I am currently upgrading equipment and need the cash!  I paid $1800 for
the Maxoptics drive and $1600 for the PAR and the Decimation chip runs
$175.
How about both the optical and PAR card for $1450 ?
chuck
BigFatChuk@aol

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>>No what really sucks is sleep deprived rendering with a file name of
more
than 8.3 to a cross dos disk.....:( nothing like rendering 300 frames to
get 3.......<<

my sympathies...

greg




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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James
Hastings-Trew) wrote:

> While there are some art theories that go so far as to say that the medium
> is as important as the content (imagery, composition, colour, space) this
> is a particularly modern theory. It goes against the bulk of art history
> where the medium used was irrelevant to the presentation of the
> art/image/idea. Does it matter if the painting you are looking at was done
> in egg tempra vs. oils vs. acrylic? Would the content of the painting
> dictate to a degree the media used? Some artists would state emphatically,
> "Yes!" However, I have travelled in art circles, and know that those who
> make these statements are usually ignorant of any medium other than the one
> they chose/stumbled onto -- the "perfect" medium for their work is the one
> they have always/will always use -- how convenient. How many current art
> school graduates have even used oil paints or egg tempra, now that the
> horrid and flat acrylic has all but taken over?
>
> Choice of media certainly is one of the esthetic choices I alluded to in my
> eariler arguments. Why choose the computer to convey a certain content --
> i.e. is it the most appropriate medium for a particular purpose? As in all
> arts, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes it is important, and sometimes
> it isn't. I would be suspicious of a digital artist who always uses the
> same tool, no matter what the content or message of the work is. As the old
> saying goes, "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a
> nail." This is how bad art often gets created, digital or not.
>
> Certainly as a media the computer is more suited to the art of animation
> than any other media -- it is the right esthetic choice in the overwhelming
> majority of cases. What example of animation art couldn't be done better on
> the computer now than with crude cells and paint. Precious little I'd
> wager.
>
> As a work of art, have a look at Tim Burton's "Nightmare Before Christmas"
> -- the use of the computer in various segments of this masterpiece is
> perfect -- the ultimate choice of media perfectly joined with the content
> of the piece, while the other techniques used are also perfect esthetic
> choices. This film would not have been the same had it been done entirely
> with stop motion/claymation or entirely with computers, or entirely with
> cell animation. In this film the right tools were used for the right
> things, and it all works so beautifully. Digital artists sometimes get so
> caught up in bashing everthing with the same computer hammer they forget
> that there are sometimes better tools to achieve a better end. After "Toy
> Story" could "Nightmare" have been done in the same way, or will there now
> be pressure to do these kinds of films in a purely digital way?
>
> This does not cut any ice with me. I got my fine-arts degree in
> printmaking, a set of media that is by its very nature a
> reproductive/replicative one. Is a Durher etching any less of a work of art
> than a DaVinci drawing, even though multiple copies exist of one, while
> only one exists of the other? It also raises an interesting point -- is art
> reproduced in coffee-table and text-books not "art" simply because the
> content is conveyed by a different media? Is the tangible, unique piece of
> workmanship the art, or is the image/idea conveyed the art? Is music on a
> CD, or is music only to be found in the concert hall? I wonder, because
> your choices here do have ramifications for art which is by its very nature
> replicated -- all digitial art, all performance art, all recorded music.
>
> You have not surfed far or deep enough. There is some very tragic material
> on the web, some of it intentional.
>
>
> James Hastings-Trew
> System Administrator
> Mister Print Productions Ltd., Saskatoon, SK, Canada
>

Couldn't have said it any better myself!

Art is whats perceived in the mind and not the tools to create it. What was
concidered in the past to be mistakes are now considered methods! The problem
with old-school artists is the fact that they, without the willingness to take
the time to continually learn new mediums, make statments about a medium not
being considered art because of all the money they see themselves losing in the
future. Art is what you make of it. The comment made in the above quote about
"those who make these statements are usually ignorant of any medium other than
the one they chose/stumbled onto" is very true. You may not consider those
little 3d sterio posters art, but do you think the guy creating them cares with
all the money he's making?
Art has to be something you enjoy doing and not what you "HAVE" to be doing. If
artists in the 18th century had the technology of the 90's, you would probably
never have heard of a thing called "PAINT".
In another 100 years, people will be going to museum's to laughing at what we
considered to be computers. Its called evolution! Sarcasm will never make anyone
money.

It's better to enjoy making money at what you do, then it is to cry about not
being able to afford the tools to fulfill your enjoyment.

"Damn-it, this thing isn't fast enough!" - VanGogh in the 90's



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From: [e-mail] (Saiyad Abdul)
Subject: Can't load 8 bit .TGA's
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I am going nuts trying to figure out why I can't load 8 bit targas...I
have renamed both the "iff.exe" and "targa.exe" in the HIIP loaders
directory. I can load 8 bit iff's with no problem but if I try to load an
8 bit targa saved with Paint Shop Pro 3.0(tried both compressed 8 bit and
uncompressed), I get an error message stating "Unknown image file
format".....I work pretty much exclusively with tga's and
don't want to have to have to go through converting stuff to iff every
time and just having all those redundant files is freakin annoying. Any
help or suggestions offered greatly appreciated.

Sai


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Mac?
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>No Mr. SGI is most likely just feeling Apple breathing down his neck.
>A PM 8500 for $4k with video in _and_ out, workstation level spec marks,
>a $400 Quickdraw 3d acellerator PCI card. Possible port of Lightwave 3d,
>Apple licensing clones right and left (possibly even AT). Yeah I'd say
>Mr. SGI is just _wishing_ that Apple will go away.

I don't think Silcon Graphics is too worried about PowerMacs. A
PowerMac 8500 still can't do 3D anywhere near a machine with impact
graphics, or even XZ graphics. I very much doubt that Lightwave will
go Mac, Newtek would REALLY be spreading themselves too thin by
supporting another platform. You also have to remember SGI is getting
ready to release a new line of machines, and SGI isn't competing with
Macs as much as they are Suns, Alphas, HP, and IBM. Apple also doesn't
compete with SGI in the supercompter market either. It's like
compairing apples in oranges really.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <47rcvm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III)) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville (III))
>Subject: Re: Alphachannels and Stencil....
>Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:03:18 GMT


>>If you find a way to open the 8bit IFF`s Lightwave-output, I really
>>like to hear about it...
>>

>Ok - my goof for keeping track of the original problem.  Image Alchemy (my good
>old DOS based standby) will convert LightWave 8-bit iffs (alpha-mattes) to
>8 bit iffs with a color map.  No special steps, just tell it to make the .iff
>an Amiga ILBM.  PaintShop Pro will read the converted file and so too did
>Lightwave.  I'll see if Elastic Reality's Transjammer will read the LW 8-bit
>latter on tonight.  I'm pretty sure that I used ER to make a 32 bit targa
>that comtained the main image and the alpha matte.

>Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]

OK - neither Elastic Reality or Hijack Pro 3.0 would recognize the Lightwave
produced 8 bit alpha-matte image.  Both did after I had Image Alchemy
"re-convert" it to an .iff.  I'm pretty sure I used 8-bit targa's from
LightWave 3.5 on the Amiga previously to make the 32-bit Targa with
Alpha-matte.  I bought Image Alchemy a couple years ago when I found that
Hijaak would only open 24 bit .iffs.   It wouldn't save them (the current
version opens and saves them).  I also noticed yesterday that Hijaak Pro 3.0
was turning the first two rows of pixels to black when I converted to 24-bit
.iffs.  I understand that the Win95 version does NOT have this problem.

Image Alchemy is a DOS program.  However, its been a real solid resource.
Those folks seem to know how to handle image conversion (the program will
auto-detect the file type - doesn't have to have the correct extension).  I
wish they had come out with a Windows program.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Crookshank) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
>Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Mac?
>Date: 8 Nov 1995 20:49:28 GMT

>On 04-Nov-95 00:52:03, Walter (Jay) Turberville  ([e-mail]) posted:

>> BTW - I heard this week that Apple passed IBM in sales and is now number
>> 2 in  total microcomputer sells.

>Erhmmm, too bad they only have 8% market share now. Your "source" would
>then indicate that IBM has less than 8% market share?

>      ______________________________________________________________
>     /     John Crookshank         | Raptor3 DEC Alpha Workstations \

I believe I heard it on a radio broadcast.  They didn't get into the actual
numbers.  I'm real fuzzy on who is number 1, but I think it is Compaq.


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PVR Users:  Is there any DIRECT method to access the trimmed frames of a PVR
playlist as a source of image sequences?  To avoid doing what I just "had" to
do:

    Create an edited playlist  (EDL)
    Output the frames as an image sequence

    (Now, at this point I could have hosed that image sequence back into the
PVR and used it as a source of images, but I chose not to.)

    Import the frames into LW as an Image Sequence

    What I'd much prefer to do is >reference< a playlist to acquire frames:
this would both be faster and conserve mucho disk space.

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>   [e-mail] (John Crookshank) writes:
>  On 04-Nov-95 00:52:03, Walter (Jay) Turberville  ([e-mail]) posted:
>
>  > BTW - I heard this week that Apple passed IBM in sales and is now number
>  > 2 in  total microcomputer sells.
>
>  Erhmmm, too bad they only have 8% market share now. Your "source" would
>  then indicate that IBM has less than 8% market share?

    John-Boy, I believe he meant >IBM<, not Compaq, ZEOS, Gateway, etc
combined.

    I have no problems believing that.  So, Apple is bigger than Compaq....

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Smith)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett) writes:
>Hi All,
>recently the London TV network started showing AIRWOLF, only about
>5 shows. And I always liked the program mainly because of the bitchin
>looking helicopter.
>
>Well I want to do an AIRWOLF object in LW as my first serious object
>project and I'm looking for pics, design drawings, ect anything that will
>help me. Please if U have anything that I can use please email me soon as
>poss.
>

Well, the heli's a Bell 222. So you could look around the WWW for some pics of that...

Stu

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett) says:
<Irrelevent stuff deleted>
>PS. views of the chopper from all angles would be excellent :)
>
>PSS Or if there is a better newsgroup to ask?
>

wouldnt the second one be 'post post script' or PPS instead of
'post script script' (PSS)? ;->

Just one of those little things that annoys the hell out of you, like
writing ect. (etc. et cetera)

-joe

Ps: Sorry, don't have any helicopter stuff.

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 What a bonehead. I'll send you a carton of smokes and a cork when you go
to jail NERDBOY!



Tony


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jasper)
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Subject: Re: LW Student Pricing available???
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> I was just lurking over in the 3DS forum and for the version before the
>current $800.00 was considered a good price. Also it was noted that Autodesk
>support is handeled by qualified dealers, and if you have a student version
>your support comes from whoever is working the  Student bookstore at that time!
> It appears that student priceing varies greatly and from what I read
>over there Qualifying is becoming more difficult .

Actually most students pay around $400 for R4 of 3DS. I think Journey
Marketing is the most expensive at $700 something. AutoDesk does not
give phone support to students but you can get support from them on
Compuserve or through their web page. I wouldn't ask anyone who works
in a student bookstore to help me with any software :) What do you
mean by qualifying is becoming more difficult? If your a student you
qualify for the discount, easy as that. Right now the only debate is
if student will be able to upgrade to the commercial version of Max
for $500. No one has made an official statement yet as to yes or no on
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[e-mail] (Shane Davison) writes:
> More and more people are going into business
> for themselves (because more people are looking for jobs and less employers
> are hiring).

Animation hiring is at an all time high in the industry. Those students
that aren't being hired aren't good enough to cut the mustard, plain and
simple. It has nothing to do with a lack of hiring. The unfortunate truth
is that the field is occupied by 10% talent, and 90% wanna-be's. Thats
not to say the wanna-be's can't eventually learn the talent. But don't
ever expect animation houses to hire every graduate just because they've
done the schooling. If you think you know someone who is a great animator,
but just can't find a job, have them send their reel to me. But I went
through 60 reels this past week, and only a couple made me think, "Hmmm,
nice work".

> The number of students starting their own business after
> they graduate (or before!) is increasing significantly
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
A prime example why there shouldn't be student discounts, unless the
software has been horribly crippled.

> and those that don't see this coming will likely be out of business soon...

Correction, those that can't get hired and start their own business, will
likely be out of business soon.

> So, we're not "whining" students who think
> the world "owes" us something - we're just trying to sell more copies
> of LW (to students) so it helps out everyone in the long run.

So rather than complaining that you can't get LW for a fraction of the
price that everyone else must pay, why not direct your efforts at the
learning institutions. They already receive steep discounts on LW,
and they are the ones ultimately responsible for the tools you use
in school anyway.
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[e-mail] (FCAP) writes:
> So our intel PC NT version PAR suddenly starts not accepting any TGA files
> from any source and comes up with this line "Allocation - Malformed file
> header".  Since it's practically impossible to get DPS on the line, does
> anyone know what this means?

It means you're screwed. Backup all the files that play fine without
errors, reformat the drive, and then restore.
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>compete with SGI in the supercompter market either. It's like
>compairing apples in oranges really.

>Jeff

No pun intended?  :^)



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In a msg dated 08-Nov-95 23:54:21, candyman was yapping about Re: tomahawk.

*>>Thanks for all the support over the past year !


*>>Keith CHristopher.

*>   No keith thank you...

Yeah, bloody good job Keith :)

<sb>
Nuff said,
                              Andrew Barnett
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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LW4 (Intel)..... help!!!
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:12:18 GMT
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[e-mail] (MarcMylar) wrote:

>In article <463oc4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>
>>In 3.1, Preview wouldn't show the wireframe OR bounding box, but it
>tried,
>
>Question: do you have the latest driver for your display card?  I had a
>similar problem, which went away with the new driver.  (ATI Mach 64, PCI,
>4 MB VRAM).
>
>-Marc


Where's that full screen MPEG driver they say is released for the ATI
Mac 64?


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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Organic Modeling - HELP!
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:44:52 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>>   Ron Praver <[e-mail]> writes:
>>  BTW, I am one of the guys that was involved with creating Blob Sculptor.
>>  Seeing that you are on the LIGHTWAVE group I will assume you are running
>>  windows. If so check out WINBLOBS this is a version for windows.
>>
>>      Enjoy,
>>      Ron
>>
>>  On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, ASK ME NICELY wrote:
>>
>>  > <[e-mail]> writes:
>>  >
>>  > >>   [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)  writes:
>>  >
>>  > the program is called Blob Sculptor and its on Compuserve as Blob2.zip
>>  > (i think).
>>  >
>>  > its a cool program and theres an article about it in 3D DESIGN magazine
>>  > (premiere issue).
>>  >
>
>
>    How about some other FTP site where this could be downloaded?
>
>
wuarchive.wustl.edu

/graphics/graphics/mirrors/uniwa.uwa.edu.au/utilities


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From: Sam Marrocco <[e-mail]>
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Subject: SGI Screamernet speed
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I just finished render some scenes with Screamernet-SGI. Using a single
machine, and Indigo2 Extreme (200 MHZ R4400) with 96 megs of RAM, I got
about a 33% improvement in rendering speed over rendering in layout. I
would definately consider this significant!

Sam J. Marrocco
Grace & Wild Studios

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From: [e-mail] (Bill Leonard)
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Subject: Re: NewTek via Netscape
Date: 9 Nov 1995 13:22:19 GMT
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In article <47o86o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Joe
Perez) wrote:

Use an FTP client if Netscape is giving you problems, but it shouldn't
be.  I've used it myself to go to Newtek as well as many other FTP sites.
Try the site again, maybe there was a routing problem / timeout.


> Now that I have a graphic internet provider, I can no longer connect
> with NewTek's site for info and upgrades. When i try to use Netscape
> and attempt to access ftp.newtek.com I get nowhere. Am I doing this
> wrong? How can I get to the NewTek site via Netscape? NewTek's www
> page does not offer access to files (at least I certainly didn't see
> it). Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Perez

Bill Leonard
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brad prosise <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Sorry for the off subject post but it is for use with LW.
>I am looking for a Utility that will break an avi, qt, or mpeg
>file into individual frames.

As the previous poster mentioned, DeBabelizer is sent from heaven to
make this sort of thing possible. Unfortunately, the heavenly host have
only released it for Macs and Unix (no PC version).

There is a shareware program called Video For Dos floating around which
will do some of what you want, but otherwise your best bet seems to be
Adobe Premiere.

John.

[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Boback Shahsafdari)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: THe best AVI method..my results
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Stephen Bailey <[e-mail]> wrote:

>At the intel web site, there is a free copy of their latest
>codec, the 4.1 interactive codec. It is an improvement, and
>the new controls allow you to do keying and transparencies in
>Premiere. Definitely worth checking out.

>www.intel.com

>go to the video or multimedia section.

    I tried mate, but they only had the old 3.2 version. Could you please
give the html name as well...

thanQ  kindly

Boback



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From: [e-mail] (James Kewageshig)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: EXPLODE effect macro at Tomahawk!
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Hello All,
Well, I released it.  My Exploder macro is call 'Expl-v1.lzh' at
ftp://tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu/pub/LW/arexx/

For all those interested in it,  I'll post the docs...

*******************************************************************


TITLE:    Exploder v1.0

AUTHOR:   James Kewageshig ([e-mail])

DATE:     November 7, 1995

PURPOSE:  To create a Lightwave scenefile that explodes an object

LEGAL:    Freeware.  Not to be used in commercial project/applications
          without EXPLICT permission from the author.  Source and parts
          of souce code not to be used in any other applications.

          Source code copyright and property of author, James Kewageshig.



Instructions:

1.  Create a scenefile consisting of at least one object, the first object
    in the scene is the one that 'explodes' on its last defined keyframe.

2.  Go into Modeller and load the object into the FIRST LAYER.

3.  If necessary, add the macro to your list of macros, then execute.

4.  Fill in the requested information. Hit OK.

5.  Sit back, breath.

6.  When done, go back to Layout and load the newly created scenefile.

7.  Make Preview, and take cover!  :)



Definitions:

EXPLODE MAGNITUDE:
Force of the explosion, based on size of object.

CHUNK FACTOR %:
Size of chunks created, based on % of size of object.

GRAVITY:
Force of Gravity constant.  Can be set to zero for explosions in space.

BOUNCE %:
New velocity after hitting ground, percentage based on previous velocity.

ROTATION PER METER (degrees):
Specifies how many degrees to rotate as the chunk flies away.

MAX NUMBER OF NEW KEYS:
Maximum number of new keyframes created for each chunk.

NEW OBJECT FILENAME (prefix):
Name used when saving 'chunks' as objects.  IE: chunk-1, chunk-2, chunk-3

ORIGINAL SCENE FILENAME:
Name of scene used for basis of explosion.

NEW SCENE FILENAME:
Name of new explosion scenefile created.




FUTURE FEATURES:  (Depending on response to this version)

-  Flameball/Smokeball effect

-  Multiple bombs, and timing.

-  Disintegration/Peel-off  (ala 'Star Wars' trench scene)


Any other suggestions should be sent to me and are appreciated!

Have fun!


James Kewageshig

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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Barger)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
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Andrew Barnett ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi All,
: recently the London TV network started showing AIRWOLF, only about
: 5 shows. And I always liked the program mainly because of the bitchin
: looking helicopter.

: Well I want to do an AIRWOLF object in LW as my first serious object
: project and I'm looking for pics, design drawings, ect anything that will
: help me. Please if U have anything that I can use please email me soon as
: poss.

They used a black Bell model 222.  A good source for pictures and
drawings would likely be your local library in a book such as Jane's All
The World's Aircraft.

Good Luck

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>>>I've got the program. Any of you have a crack for it?
>>>I'll trade any program(s) i've got:

     Go shit in a hole,
     jump in the hole,
     and pull the hole in with you.

     Come back in 10 years.

     DMA


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From: Dan Ablan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Book Review - Exploring LightWave 3D! - Part Two
Date: 9 Nov 1995 16:20:43 GMT
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[e-mail] (Phillip Finch) wrote:

>fact that I paid $60 for it has me banging my head on the desktop.

      Be patient. A new LightWave third party book




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[e-mail] (Phillip Finch) wrote:

>fact that I paid $60 for it has me banging my head on the desktop.

           Be patient. A new third party LightWave
           book will be available in the near future.

           DMA


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>Deep
>=====================

    Is your name really Deep?
    Is your middle initial T ?

    About your scanning problem,
    have you tried a higher resolution? Yes, 72dpi
    is video, and what you'll eventually see,
    but remember the garbage in - garbage out theory.
    try scanning at the highest resolution you can,
    and then scaling down to 640 x 480, or 752 x 480.

    I still scan on my Amiga 2000, with ADPro,
    and an Epson 600 color flatbed. Works great.

    DMA


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From: [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits)
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Subject: Can`t load 8 bit .TGA`s
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[e-mail] said:

>I am going nuts trying to figure out why I can't load 8 bit targas...I
>have renamed both the "iff.exe" and "targa.exe" in the HIIP loaders
>directory. I can load 8 bit iff's with no problem but if I try to load an
>8 bit targa saved with Paint Shop Pro 3.0(tried both compressed 8 bit and
>uncompressed), I get an error message stating "Unknown image file
>format".....I work pretty much exclusively with tga's and
>don't want to have to have to go through converting stuff to iff every
>time and just having all those redundant files is freakin annoying. Any
>help or suggestions offered greatly appreciated.

   There's nothing to figure out... LW can't load 8-bit (Grayscale
or 256-color) targas.

   Perhaps when the HIIP targa loader is fixed, it'll load 8-bit
images and not expand them to 24...

   -Jim

James G. Jones
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Subject: Re: ANYONE HAVE PHOTOSTYLER (Not Photoshop, PHOTOSTYLER) - I do!
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I have both Photoshop and Photostyler too! It's amazing how they never put
ALL usefull in one package. I like Photoshop the best albeit Photostyler
has a usefull feature for adding text to graphics, (I forgot what it was).

I have a 486-100mhz with 40meg of RAM. When I upgraded to Win95, I ran
into big problems with Photoshop. I got the 3.0.4 upgrade supposedly to
work in Win95. It did for a month, then I ran into errors. They have a
WIN95 beta on the web site now. So far it seems to work well. We'll see!

To run anything theses days, it seems you need 16meg or better. Go to a
computer show and get more RAM.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Graveen)
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Subject: Re: PAR, will it work on PC?
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In article <[e-mail]>, ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]> says:
>
>I've got an Amiga PAR board.  Since it goes into the PC slot of my Amiga,
>will it work in a PC if I got the right software for it>
>
>thanx for any help
>Josh Tsui

    No it wouldn't work because the Amiga PAR fits into a Zorro slot.

    Michael Graveen

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Subject: Re: What's up with TEXT?
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In article <47o15d$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Hans Sep ("It ain't much if it isn't Dutch")) says:
>
>I've been "playing" with Lightwave Modeler but until now i haven't
>modelled any text to my satisfaction...
>
>Problem: the "hole" in, for example, "O" is not a "hole". I just can't
>seem to get it right! What am i doing wrong?
>
>Don't tell me i've spend a lot of money in a package that doesn't
>handle text!!!
>
>setup: win95UK, p100, 16 meg, 2Mb graphics card.
>
>
    Use POST SCRIPT fonts. They work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Michael Graveen

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From: [e-mail] (David L. Campbell)
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John Brandwood ([e-mail]) wrote:
: brad prosise <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >Sorry for the off subject post but it is for use with LW.
: >I am looking for a Utility that will break an avi, qt, or mpeg
: >file into individual frames.
:
: As the previous poster mentioned, DeBabelizer is sent from heaven to
: make this sort of thing possible. Unfortunately, the heavenly host have
: only released it for Macs and Unix (no PC version).
:
: There is a shareware program called Video For Dos floating around which
: will do some of what you want, but otherwise your best bet seems to be
: Adobe Premiere.

Also, MediaStudio Pro (by Ulead) comes with a media conversion utility that
will convert just about any multi-media format to any other (reasonable)
format.  Besides doing avi/mov to image sequence conversions, it will also
do other less-obvious conversions like creating a wav file from the audio
portion of an avi.  (BTW, I'm not affiliated with Ulead in any way other
than being a satisfied customer...)


David.
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Graveen)
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Subject: Re: Memory chip problems simms from my Amiga in my IBM
Date: 9 Nov 1995 23:57:18 GMT
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In article <47mkhk$[e-mail]>, "Harry H. Chang" <[e-mail]> says:
>
>[e-mail] (John Foust) wrote:
>>In article <471p49$[e-mail]>, Jack Campbell <[e-mail]> says:
>>>Why wont the 16meg 60ns 72pin simms work in my Pentium.
>>>I even turned the parity off and it still doesnt make any diffrence.
>>>What is different about the chips I had on my Warp engine.
>
>Well, I was at one of my local computer shop and they were assembling a pentium
>system.  The system had 16 mb of memory by using 2 8mb 72 pin simm.
>I was curious why they are putting 2 8mb simms rather than 1 16mb simm, because
>I knew 1 16mb is cheaper than 2 8mb simms.  Their answer was that because pentium
>has 64 bit datapath or something so that you can not use 16mb simm.
>but you can use 16mb simm on 486dx machines because it use 32bit data path or
>something like that.
>
>I don't really understand the theory behind it but the point is simple.
>If you have 64bit chip like pentium, you cannot use 16mb simm.
>
    Where does this information come from??? You can use 16 mb simms
in a Pentium, you just have to add 2 at a time.

    Michael Graveen

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From: brett <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Snake effect HELP!!
Date: 9 Nov 1995 19:59:44 GMT
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> >>   [e-mail] (THX1138871) writes:
> >>  I need to animate a cable "snaking back & forth acros the screen in an S
> >>  shape.
> >>
> >>  I've been going nuts trying to do it with bones.
> >>
> >>  Is there a better way?
> >>
> >>  Thanks
> >>
> >>>>>
> >    Mark Thompson's IN-FOCUS tape demonstrates a methodology to do exactly
> >that.  WELL worth the price.
>
> >****************************************************************************
> >** [e-mail]                   |  Synergy Graphix & Animation
> >** Welcome to Seattle, have a latte'!      | Technical Subjects a Specialty!
> >** Don't make me force it down your throat.....
> >****************************************************************************
>
>
> but if you waant to do it the mindless way the power macros SnaKE Comes to
> mind
>
>

if you wanted to do it without BUYING ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE however, you
could simply run a displacement map down a high mesh snake (tube) object
to produce the effect you are looking for.

Brett

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From: Stephen Bailey <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: plugins for 95?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 18:14:49 +0000
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Saiyad Abdul wrote:
>
> I was just wondering if SPARKS, or Impact will be made available for
> 95. I have heard about them on NT but haven't heard anything about 95
> versions I really hope all these wonderful new plugins make their way to
> more than just NT on Intel PCs.
>
> Sai

The basic idea (according to Microsoft) is that Windows NT compatibility
means Windows 95 compatibility and vice versa (atleast 95% of the time).

And with the speed increases afforded by NT, why not use that instead of 95
anyway?

Just a thought.

--
Stephen Bailey

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From: John Brandwood <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (Brenden Mecleary ) wrote:
>    Okay, I've sent out several messages, and nobody's responded.  I
>want to know WHY LW'S IMAGE SAVING/LOADING SUCKS!!!

.. stuff deleted ...

I'm not trying to annoy you here, but this is version 1.0 for the Intel
platforms, and it would be amazing if everything worked perfectly. I
hope that the bugs get fixed soon, but in meanwhile, have you tried to
work around this ?

I've only just got my copy of LW, so I'm not sure this is possible, but
if you can get LW to spit out a sequence of PCX, TIFF or TARGA files for
your animation, then you could run the Video For Dos (VFD) shareware
package to make them up into a FLIC or AVI file. Or if your Mac does
any graphics work, then it should have a copy of DeBabelizer on it
which will convert anything to anything.

Good luck,

John.

[e-mail]



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I'm looking for CyberGraphics, version 40.47 or the latest ver. does
anyone have this or can you tell me where it is?

thanks.




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I'm looking for CyberGraphics, version 40.47 or the latest ver. does
anyone have this or can you tell me where it is?

thanks.




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From: [e-mail] (khufu)
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Subject: To some of you Lightwave experts...
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:27:46 GMT
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I don't have the program yet but I was wondering if some of you more
experienced Lightwave modelers could upload some samples of your work in
FLIC, AVI or any other form of animation created by Lightwave. I've tried
www.newtek.com but they don't have any available for download yet. Anything
would be appreciated, Thanks.

khufu.

P.S.

The higher then resolution, and the longer the animation, the better! Just
throw bandwidth caution to the wind :)

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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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>[e-mail] wrote:

>>>   Ron Praver <[e-mail]> writes:
>>>  BTW, I am one of the guys that was involved with creating Blob Sculptor.
>>>  Seeing that you are on the LIGHTWAVE group I will assume you are running
>>>  windows. If so check out WINBLOBS this is a version for windows.
>>>
>>>      Enjoy,
>>>      Ron
>>>
>>>  On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, ASK ME NICELY wrote:
>>>
>>>  > <[e-mail]> writes:
>>>  >
>>>  > >>   [e-mail] (Dan Bloomfield)  writes:
>>>  >
>>>  > the program is called Blob Sculptor and its on Compuserve as Blob2.zip
>>>  > (i think).
>>>  >
>>>  > its a cool program and theres an article about it in 3D DESIGN magazine
>>>  > (premiere issue).
>>>  >
>>
>>
>>    How about some other FTP site where this could be downloaded?
>>
>>
>wuarchive.wustl.edu

>/graphics/graphics/mirrors/uniwa.uwa.edu.au/utilities

    hmm no alpha compiled version yet?? :)


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>Candyman - do you think you might be able to employ a little editing
>tech

doh! apologies..

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>if you wanted to do it without BUYING ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE however, you
>could simply run a displacement map down a high mesh snake (tube) object
>to produce the effect you are looking for.

>Brett

true enough prolly even multi morph target it , all whatever is handiest
at the time or your more comfy with..

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From: ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]>
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H.R. Laser <[e-mail]> writes:

>ASK ME NICELY ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:
>: Besides, Los Angeles is the armpit of the earth :)
>:
>: Josh Tsui
>
>Hard to argue with that, and I've lived in SoCal since 1956. But I'll
>tell ya, Josh, I took an AmTrak trip from  LA > Chicago in '93 and
>I'll never in my life forget what the ass-end of Chiago looked like
>as the train pulled into Union Station.  Bombed-out graffiti-covered

well, 1956 was a while ago.

Actually, Chicago is pretty damn cool.  I lived in Los Angeles all my life
and I have no intentions to go back (thank God).

Anyways, the Toaster Expo should be a touring show where it changes locations
every year.   Could be our own private Siggraph.

Josh Tsui

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I think the BeBox, however, is a good idea for another platform for NewTek
to develop for.  Its A/V capabilities look like it will lend itself very
well to nonlinear a/v editing.


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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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In article <47vtu3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jrmdd)
writes:

>Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might put SMPTE time code on
>screen with my animation?  Without modeling each frame number hopefully.
>Thanks
>
>

    See if your setup has an output for smpte genlocking somewhere. Our
time code generators have an output for this..

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Bill Leonard wrote:
>
> In article <47lara$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
> Foust) wrote:
>
> > So NewTek can make LightWave more popular by giving it away?
>
> Seems to work for Netscape.  See the never ending profit increase thread.  ;-)
>

So you're the guy who renders the Newtek apple with the orange peel surface. <grin>


--
Stephen Bailey

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|>>>Would be possible for the demo version of LW to be useable for
|>>programmers
|>>>to develope plug-ins?
|>>>
|>>>I know several programmers I could get to work on some plug in
|>ideas, but
|>>>I have not got the $ 3000 grande to buy them LW.  These would be
|>freeware
|>>>mini plug ins....
|>>>
|>>>
  First where did you get the $3000 price ?

|>
|>Perhaps newtek could start a developer program for programmers.
|>Perhaps they could key the software so it only
|>worked for a limited amount of time unless they are producing
|>something it does not work anymore...I dont know,
|>maybe that is nuts.
   Forget it! I want NewTek working on LW the real one. If somebody
 wants to develope plugins let them buy the package. I see adds for
 Plugins starting to pop up. Pretty soon you will have more than you
 will be able to buy. I stand against the thought og NewTek wasting
 time on a crippled version. First If it were crippled enough to be
 unuseable it would not even make a good demo. It it had limited capabilities
 we'd all here someone spouting how LW was a piece of crap(based on there
 limited version.

|>It would seem to me that it would be in Newteks best interest to get
|>as many people programming LW plug-ins as possible.
|>
  I agree and they have released the SDK to support this. If I owned the
 rights to a piece of software like LW I would want to insure that all
 plugins were developed and tested using the current version of the program.
 (current version could be read to mean ALL SUPPORTED VERSIONS). The thought
 of spending time on a crippled version to give to a few hackers that may
 develop some usefull plugins, especially at this stage in the development
 cycle(porting/bugfixs) is absurd. Imagine has released Imagine LT . It
 does not support the cycle editor, and many other features that the full
 blown version does. It's intent is to offer something other than the
 PD stuff to those interested in 3D . It really can't give you the ability
 to write and test plugins(if that capability exsists). A version of LW
 stripped to the level of Imagine LT would be pretty useless as a development
 tool, and would not promote LW's greatest strengths.

 -bill

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From: [e-mail] (Jrmdd)
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Subject: Time Code on Screen?
Date: 10 Nov 1995 11:17:07 -0500
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Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might put SMPTE time code on
screen with my animation?  Without modeling each frame number hopefully.
Thanks

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From: [e-mail] (Richard)
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Subject: Re: NewTek Web Site; a wish list
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 16:38:40 -0600
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In article <Norman-0311951806120001@red_knight.msfc.nasa.gov>,
[e-mail] (Richard) wrote:

> A thread for sharing some random thoughts as to how to
> improve the NewTek Web Site.
>
> Here are some of my "deep thoughts" ;-)
>

Oh yeah, while your at it, add some html indexes into your FTP site.
Sort of like the NCSA Mac Mosaic home pages.

<<<<=======================================================================
    Richard Norman                              [e-mail]
      AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation
          Amiga Networking FAQ   /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh
                          Inputs appreciated!
=======================================================================>>>>

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Subject: Re: Textures for dinos?
Date: 9 Nov 1995 22:29:25 GMT
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I've been working on Dino Textures for a month now,
try this,

try a crumple bump texture, with a negative amplitude
(-120%) and the other value (scales or something top one)
and a very small texture size.
then a try a fractal noise on the color, high contrast(4)
I ended up liking a kakhi green, and a yellow oakre make
the size  the same as what you decided on the crumple.
Put a fractal on the diffuse, and on the specularity
for added realism. This works allright,
at least it dresses up the jurassic collection.
For even better quality draw the color map in photoshop,
then put the crumple bump.
  We also wanted a real good dinosoaur, but the Jurrasic
Collection wasn't it.
I ended up just modeling the dinousaur myself.
If you want something as good as Jurassic park,
don't waste your $ on the jurrasic collection


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From: Sam Marrocco <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Postscript to LW
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So we all know LW will allow IBM Postscript fonts to be input and
converted to objects (through the text functions), but is there a way to
take Postscript files (other than fonts) and directly input them into
modeler?

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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kosarovich)
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Subject: Re: Anyone using a PVR or Flyer with a RAID?
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[e-mail] (James Macleod) writes:

>Hi, we have a PVR, and we are interested in getting a flyer.
>I am wondering if anyone has tried to use a RAID to increase speed.
>If you have, would you share your results and what sort of speeds you
>are getting?
>Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks.
>
>:)

I have wanted to buy a RAID since the very beginning, and there is no reason
that I know of that a hardware based RAID shouldn't work fine with the
Flyer, but NewTek refuses to approve any.  They told me if I did, let them
know how it works!

They say that RAIDs are too expensive and you shouldn't need one.  My NewTek
approved Barracudas that I am stuck with say otherwise.  I would gladly
buy one to fix my problems, but if they haven't approved it, there is the
danger of them not helping if it doesn't work right.

Good luck.

Eugene


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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:51:21 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Frank Aalbers)
Subject: Re: NT 4.0.. Speed ???
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Magic ([e-mail]) wrote:

 M> Any LW tests on the NEW NT 4.0 Beta ??? (I will not install it before
 M> someone say's GO !!)

GO !! :-)

Frank Aalbers
GRID Productions


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From: Brady Caverly <[e-mail]>
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Subject: VRML?  Anyone?
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Anybody know anything about what is involved in writing VRML for the WWW?
Anybody using LW as the modeler for VRML?

If you haven't seen it, download the WebFX plugin for Netscape Navigator 2.0b2.
 It's quite impressive.
--

 Brady Caverly                 Instructional Videotapes for
 Desktop Images             Desktop Video, Computer Animation,
                                 Windows and the Internet.
                 **ORDER 1-800-377-1039**
         Or http://www.desktopimages.com/desktop/
    *********MASTERING THE TOOLS OF TOMORROW*********

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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett)
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In a msg dated 09-Nov-95 17:44:55, Christopher Barger was yapping about Re: AIRWOLF ?.

*>They used a black Bell model 222.  A good source for pictures and
*>drawings would likely be your local library in a book such as Jane's All
*>The World's Aircraft.

Great at least I can go and say the type of chooper instead of telling them
AIRWOLF. thanks to U and stu

<sb>
Nuff said,
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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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Subject: Re: LW CrACK
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (candyman) writes:

>hmm I hear that real pirates have final releases b4 most usually , I
guess
>only lamers who have no friends or life post looking for cracks...lots of
>nice friends in jail there ..I am sure one of them will find your crack
>anyway...

    Yes, the executable has been around on the net.. But I haven't seen or
heard of a crack.. (Yes, I have my dongle...) - but I doubt these people
are really going to Jail. Software piracy is about as much inforced as Jay
Walking is in New York.. But you'd think these people would have the
brains to not post 'I need a crack' on a newsgroup full of professionals
who pay for the program.. But I guess they'll never learn.. Oh well.. Too
bad John Foust is busy in his organic farm (with Allen and Stuart),
otherwize he'd flame 'em..


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JBooth411 wrote:
>
> In article <47heib$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (William Longworth) writes:
>
> >I don't particularly like Autodesk as a corporation.  They charge way

>
>     Of course they'll compete. Thats what they do best.. Real-time shaded
> previews for lightwave (under OpenGL, NT) will be out in a few weeks, for
> FREE from Newtek..

As far as I know, the FREE shaded preview plugin applies to Modeler only right
now. Fori has posted about it extensively on the mailing list.

--
Stephen Bailey

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From: [e-mail] (John Gross)
Subject: Re: What's up with TEXT?
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: >Yes, thank you! not... I mean the inner bit of the "o" is not a "hole"
: >but something messy. I want to look through a "O"!!!

: >Is it because of truetype?

Yes. Type-1 fonts will not exhibit this behavior in Modeler.

JG

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From: [e-mail] (Mathew Mower)
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Hi All,

Sorry, I see that I had over looked setting the prefs after re-installing my
reader.

Here is my question again . . But this time there is a name and address.

Thanks

Hi,

Does any one have the phone number for the publisher/distributor of the Light
ROM CD series?  I think it is Graphics Design.

Thanks

Matt


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <4807nh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>     Yes and no. If John Foust ever fixes the loaders, then yes.. But I
>believe TS saves LW objects, or does it just load em?

You've had trouble loading 3DS objects?

The 3D Studio converter is basically the same code that's been
in LightWave for years...  it's very stable.  What sort of
problem are you having?  The most common problem seems to be
when someone hasn't properly configured the plug-ins.

- John


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From: [e-mail] (Mark A Cohen)
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I can't get my drive to install correctly! It doesn't want to recognize the
zip tools disk. I've gone through all the troubleshooting that is in the
manuals, but it just doesn't work. Any help or suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark



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From: [e-mail] (Megaman)
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Hello,
  I am still considering purchasing LW4.0, and had a quick question.  Will
  LW4.0 be able to load up any models/scenes/objects that I have created in
  tS or 3ds4?  Or do I need a seperate program?  Thanks for any info.

  Thomas
  Trinity University

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From: Alain Malek <[e-mail]>
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I have a friend who has a PAR board for the PC.
It worked fine till he installed Windows95.
The PAR program works. But when he tries to import some images
to make an ANIM the pictures doesn't look right. In fact one
field looks ok, the other field looks brighter and shifted.
Sometimes it even says it can't import the images.
When he runs the PARtest program everything seems to be ok.
The problem is not in the image format as it also doesn't work
with old pictures which worked fine. Maybe there is a problem
with the partition names...
Anyone had the same problem or have some suggestions ?

Alain Malek

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (jfaris) writes:
[SNIP]
>Yes, but I still disagree -- "art is simply about aesthetic choices,
>nothing more".  Maybe to an illustrator, who only renders reality,  art is
>only about this. I would be extremely disappointed if this was all there
>was.  What about passion?
>  I am only speaking for myself here: Any of my work that was based solely
>on aesthetics alone are usually just spit-outs (produced quickly with fast
>decisions due to a strict deadline).  I am not at all proud of that work.
>Aesthetics are always a large part of the decision;However, concept,
>emotions, associations, etc. are just as important.

Maybe your definition of aesthetics is too narrow.  One definition in my
dictionary says, "concerned with emotion and sensation as opposed to
intellectuality."

I think art is important in what it can evoke in in the "recipient" of the
art.  It may be trying to communicate and idea, and emotion, a relationship, a
point of view - and the list goes on.  Good art is art that communicates
something well. Thats pretty open ended, but that is as close as I have com to
pinning it down.

So tools don't matter except in that they help or hinder the artist to
send the "message."

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From: [e-mail] (Nemickol)
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    I loaded LW 4.0 revision B yeterday,(Win3.1)
    and can no longer save rendered still immages
    as .tga's.  I get the following message
    at the end of the rendering:

        Error
    Can't open RGB output file.

    Thus, no saved stills, and I don't know
    what this error means to try and fix it. Help!
    I assume its some button I haven't pushed
    or something simple...

    Thanks in advance!


    -Nemickol-
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From: [e-mail] (Narunas Bukauskas)
Subject: Open GL plugin...
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    Hmmm...

    I wonder if there is any hope that NewTek will post their Open GL
plugin for the modeler on their ftp. site...

    I think there is one out there that doesn't require any
Open GL harware.

    Just wondering...


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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:17:49 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Frank Aalbers)
Subject: Re: LW 4.0 output .tga's directly to PVR?
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mhood ([e-mail]) wrote:

 m> What steps does one take to output LW4.0 .tga sequences directly
 m> to the PVR?  Translating the tga's in manually is both time consuming
 m> and eats up lots of system SCSI.

Very simpel ! Save your frames directly to the PVR disk into one of
the TGA folders . It will make automatically a directory using the first 4
letters of the saving frames .

What you can also do is add more frames to this animation that are
named differently to this animation directory . It will automatically
append them into the animation .

Frank Aalbers
GRID Productions


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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:31:11 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Frank Aalbers)
Subject: Re: Using PVR playlists directly
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jeric ([e-mail]) wrote:

 j> From: [e-mail]

 j> PVR Users:  Is there any DIRECT method to access the trimmed frames of a
 j> PVR
 j> playlist as a source of image sequences?  To avoid doing what I just
 j> "had" to
 j> do:

 j>  Create an edited playlist  (EDL)
 j>  Output the frames as an image sequence

Do you mean Output the frames as an image sequence to a Harddrive that
is NOT the PVR SCSI drive ?

If that is what you mean you can do the next thing ...

Lets say your PVR directory looks like this ...

z:\TGA\disk0\fram\fram0001.tga ......

make a new folder in the PVR directory like say ...

z:\PVR\disk0\seq

Select the frames of the first part in the TGA\disk0\fram directory
and copy them to the TGA\disk0\seq directory . Select the next part of
frames in the \fram directory and copy them to the \seq directory .
They will be automatically be appended and renamed to seq.....tga .

This way you can select different parts of different animations and
append them to a new animation . This animation you can use as a
sequence for LW .

Hope this is what you where asking ...

Frank Aalbers
GRID Productions


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From: [e-mail] (Frank Aalbers)
Subject: Re: Can't load 8 bit .TGA's
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Saiyad Abdul ([e-mail] (Saiyad Abdul)) wrote:

 SA> From: [e-mail] (Saiyad Abdul)


 SA> I am going nuts trying to figure out why I can't load 8 bit targas...I
 SA> have renamed both the "iff.exe" and "targa.exe" in the HIIP loaders
 SA> directory.

It doesnt work ... forget it it ! Use IFF instead . That works fine
...

Frank Aalbers
GRID Productions


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jeric ([e-mail]) wrote:

 j>  Quick note:  the other day Photoshop repeatedly would not load IFFs
 j> created by the PVR.

 j>  Disclaimer: on MY machine, MY software, at THAT phase of the moon,
 j> etc...

Strange ! All IFF's load withaout problem here on Photoshop ...

Remember that the IFF conversion of the PVR is pure software so there
can allways be going something wrong there ...

Frank Aalbers
GRID Productions


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From: [e-mail] (Emiliano Stesinach)
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Hi ...

I was wandering ... can i have at least one litle plugin for my
lightwave in my alpha ? is there any place where i can ftp to
where an ALPHA guy can feel at home ?
sigh *

Hmmm maybe i just had to buy a Desktation based alpha ...
but i didnt .. i bought a Teraclipse of which i am very proud ...
(ha!) ... ok.... keep renderin' and please, alpha users, let's
unite ! let's make those plugins apper from the deep space ...

:)

Enrique Avalle, Lightwave Teacher/Animator
Montevideo, Uruguay, South America, via Netcom. account ...
(very expoensive, this mail, by the way ...:)

--
                                             [e-mail]

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In a message of 08 Nov 95 [e-mail] wrote to All:

 Vrn> I've got the program. Any of you have a crack for it?
 Vrn> I'll trade any program(s) i've got:
 Vrn> 3D Studio R4
 Vrn> 3ds IPAS

 Vrn> Eudora pro
 Vrn> Digital Morph
 Vrn> Gallery Effects

The Internet is Full, Fuck Off.

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
writes:

>Well, Jay, you're going to have to start hitting those manuals a little
>harder, that's all there is to it.
>
>

    You mean you guys read the manuals? With an interface like lightwaves,
you barely need the manuals!!!

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From: [e-mail] (Gary Holt)
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In article <47od3q$[e-mail]> "Harry H. Chang" <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: "Harry H. Chang" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Free 3D Models
>Date: 7 Nov 1995 19:47:06 GMT

>[e-mail] wrote:
>>The "Gundam" walking robot was INCREDIBLE. I wonder if Mr. Chang would
>>be interested in sharing some tips on making such an incredible
>>walking robot AVI?

>Inverse Kinemetics and tons of manual animation.

>I just uploaded my AT-ST walking animation in 160x120 resolution .avi format.
>The walking is not exatly same as the stop motion work in Episode V, so don't flame me.
>I will upload my AT-AT walking animation as soon as I render it out in 160x120 resolution.

>--
>HHC '95
>http://www.loop.com/~hhc
>Home of Lots of 3D Models.  Many Free Models Too!
>Star Wars Fanatics Welcomed.


After a lot of hair pulling i managed to get the beast to walk like a true
At-at. although the dummies on the front 2 legs need to be forward a little
more. Maybe thats just how I restricted the joints.


Gary......


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From: [e-mail] (David Ingebretsen)
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Hello all,

I thought I had backed up my PAR drive correctly, but on trying to
restore some files I find I'm having some problems.

1. The PAR is not automatically recognizing stills v. animations.
2. Although the backups were verified, some files restored
   partially corrupted.

I ended up having to restore to a normal hard disk and then
re-import the stills and anims separately.

When backing up, I turned off the translate becuase I vaguely remember
reading that that was what I was supposed to do. Since then, I've been
trying different combinations of translate and the anim/still gadget.

What is the best procedure to do this as I don't want to lose my work?
I have been using Ami-Back with an Archive Viper streaming tape
drive. Is their other Amiga software that will work better?

Thanks in advance...

--
David

David M. Ingebretsen             *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics ***
[e-mail]            ***       Animation and more      ***

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
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In article <47ucbr$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Megaman) writes:

>Hello,
>  I am still considering purchasing LW4.0, and had a quick question.
Will
>  LW4.0 be able to load up any models/scenes/objects that I have created
in
>  tS or 3ds4?  Or do I need a seperate program?  Thanks for any info.
>
>

     Yes and no. If John Foust ever fixes the loaders, then yes.. But I
believe TS saves LW objects, or does it just load em?

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From: [e-mail] (Paul)
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Gwynne Reddick <[e-mail]> wrote:

>ScreamerNet is unable to load a scene file under NT if it is in a directory
>which contains a space as part of it's name. Not a great problem - I just
>moved the scene file, but it did have me stumped for a while, so I thought
>I'd pass on the info.

>Gwynne.

If only the world was full of poly-woofters like you, the world would
be worth living in. I hope thats a registered copy of NT, or did you
get it from Bill Gates for payment in the morning????????????

PS. Wankers never get aids.



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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <47t9hg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Boback Shahsafdari) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Boback Shahsafdari)
>Subject: Re: LHANT -  Where can it be found?
>Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 16:11:50 GMT

>Matt B Strauss <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>I have it; I have used it and it's a good thing, mostly.

>> I actually transferred my entire amiga heirarchy across to my pc as an
>>lha file, and had good luck overall. This seems to be the only program
>>that actually would use long filenames, and not explode and mangle my
>>files.

>> the only prolem I had with it was it would occasionally crash in the
>>midst of uncompressing (no damage-justa pain in the butt), and I would
>>execute the command again, and tell it I didnt want to overwrite the
>>files...

>>anyway. I don't remember the site I got it from right away; I would
>>recommend a web search or archie search for shareware NT apps.

>You can find it at tomohawk in the lw_nt/nt_utils...
>Thats where it was the last time!! :-)

>Boback

I've put lhantx86.exe on my ftp site temporarily while tomohawk is down.

FTP address is in my .sig



_________________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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>Anybody know anything about what is involved in writing VRML for the WWW?
>Anybody using LW as the modeler for VRML?

>If you haven't seen it, download the WebFX plugin for Netscape Navigator 2.0b
> It's quite impressive.
>--
>
> Brady Caverly                 Instructional Videotapes for
> Desktop Images             Desktop Video, Computer Animation,
>                                 Windows and the Internet.
>                 **ORDER 1-800-377-1039**
>         Or http://www.desktopimages.com/desktop/
>    *********MASTERING THE TOOLS OF TOMORROW*********

hmm at last...yes vrml kicks and I have been drooling to compile the lw to
vrml plugin over so I can play on the alpha... I personally dont know how
slick it is but a bud says its nice to use...

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From: [e-mail] (candyman)
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>Hi ...

>I was wandering ... can i have at least one litle plugin for my
>lightwave in my alpha ? is there any place where i can ftp to
>where an ALPHA guy can feel at home ?
>sigh *

>Hmmm maybe i just had to buy a Desktation based alpha ...
>but i didnt .. i bought a Teraclipse of which i am very proud ...
>(ha!) ... ok.... keep renderin' and please, alpha users, let's
>unite ! let's make those plugins apper from the deep space ...

>:)

>Enrique Avalle, Lightwave Teacher/Animator
>Montevideo, Uruguay, South America, via Netcom. account ...
>(very expoensive, this mail, by the way ...:)

>--
>                                             [e-mail]

hmm your not alone...all us without visual c and no final lw version....If
I actually get my hands on them I will post ...please anyone who has alpha
compile plugins do same

btw the folks at terraclipse rock!!


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From: [e-mail] (AppleTec)
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Well excusssssssse me!

Ethan
EYECANDY ANIMATION

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StoragePath swears that their RAID will work fine for the Flyer, but for
$3,795 (Before Hard Drives) you could buy a Seagate 9 Gig with the new
4304 firmware and have almost enough leftover for a Quantum 4 Gig.

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>     It won't actualy play back animations at 640x480.. It records at
>320x240 and scales it up to your video size.. I've never used one, but
>here they're quite good. 320x240 is not as bad as it sounds, and your
>render speed is amazing.. Anyway, I ended up buying a Qmotion card from
>Quadrant. It's about the same price, also ISA, but doesn't output to the
>computer monitor, just an external monitor (tv).


I talked to Quadrant the other day and they said they will be shipping a
PCI version of Q-Motion end of November. About $8-900. Can anyone
using this card tell us what HD you are using. I am going to buy one, but
the HD is the biggest dilema right now. Thanks
-John Sonedecker

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From: [e-mail] (Who?Me)
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Hi,

Does any one have the phone number for the publisher/distributor of the Light
ROM CD series?  I think it is Graphics Design.

Thanks

Matt


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From: Bob Lindabury <[e-mail]>
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It seems there was a bug in the initial pressing of LW for the SGI to CD that has
caused Xaos to have to wait for Newtek to fix the bug.  Xaos now says they will be
repressing the CD's next week sometime and that we should have the official release
version in our hands by the end of the month.

How many times have I heard that...  I think I should have just ordered the PC
upgrade version.  The SGI version does NOT come with Pennello or any Plug-ins.

Xaos says they are working with plug-in developers.  They also say that motion
capture is going to be the first plug-in available for LightWave.  Certainly doesn't
look like the ride everyone's getting with the PC version (free Pennello Lite, Free
Plug-ins, Free ScreamerNet).

-- Bob Lindabury
[e-mail]                 The NEW Graphics BBS
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3D Studio, Lightwave, TrueSpace, POVRay, PCGNet, Tesselation Times...

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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Painter 3.0 and LW?
Date: 10 Nov 1995 06:26:41 -0500
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>>Well, I got an email message from that guy and he called me a
>>dickhead! Haha. I thought I was talking to a fellow professional,
>>little did I know he was some high school kid working on a
>>hand-me-down Amiga!


   Sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when I read this.  Called you a
dickhead?!? man, some people......That's the thing with online
communication, some people feel they can say anything just because it's
easy to get away with online.  Oh well, worth a laugh - he'll realize that
it's just as easy to be ignored :)

later
greg

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From: Terror@20,000.feet (Mason)
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Subject: Re: ANYONE HAVE PHOTOSTYLER (Not Photoshop, PHOTOSTYLER) - I do!
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[e-mail] (NFLSN) wrote:

:)How Much ram do you have?  I only Have 8 on my 486 and PShop will run
:)(granted not very fast).  When I got my upgrade (three month's after I
:)paid for it)  I was shocked by the ram requirements also.  Who has a PC
:)with 10 meg??

I have a pc with more than 10 megs of ram... :)
Happy Days are here again...


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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <47j7il$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I just received the new press release from Amiga Technologies GmbH
>containing the specs for the new A4000 Tower.  To sum up:

Wow, no RISC?  No new chipset?  Why, this sounds like the same old Amiga!


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From: [e-mail] (Boback Shahsafdari)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LHANT -  Where can it be found?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 16:11:50 GMT
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Matt B Strauss <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have it; I have used it and it's a good thing, mostly.

> I actually transferred my entire amiga heirarchy across to my pc as an
>lha file, and had good luck overall. This seems to be the only program
>that actually would use long filenames, and not explode and mangle my
>files.

> the only prolem I had with it was it would occasionally crash in the
>midst of uncompressing (no damage-justa pain in the butt), and I would
>execute the command again, and tell it I didnt want to overwrite the
>files...

>anyway. I don't remember the site I got it from right away; I would
>recommend a web search or archie search for shareware NT apps.

You can find it at tomohawk in the lw_nt/nt_utils...
Thats where it was the last time!! :-)

Boback



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From: brett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: quick ques:how do you convert a .3ds object to a LW object
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>
> just a quick question
>
> how do you convert a .3ds object to a lightwave object. thx

1. load the object (in modeler)

2. save the object


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From: Edward Smith <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 08:45:50 -0800
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Candyman - do you think you might be able to employ a little editing
technique?  I just waded through 6 of your posts in which you qoute the
entire previous 20 plus lines of the previous post and add a couple of
your own.  Perhaps if you just picked the couple of lines of the
previous post that was relevant to you statement, that might be
better...

Thanks.

--
Edward Smith

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From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How about a programmers version of LW?
Date: 10 Nov 1995 14:03:17 -0500
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In article <47lt2e$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James Macleod)
writes:

>Just get people making plug-ins.

    They already are - there are currently 5 plug-in's released, and at
least 5 more anounced, all in the last two weeks or so too. I think things
are comming along nicely.


>I have lots of ideas that could really add to LW.  I dont want to start a
>company and I dont have several thousand
>to invest in extra copies to give to my programmer friends who are
interested
>in doing stuff. I am very certain I
>am not alone in this category, and that many people with programming
skills,
>or just ideas, could contribute a great
>deal to LW.
>
>

      Great - so post your idea, or make them yourself. Get BML, I am
(beta #9) - BTW, BML is Bob's Modeler Language, a C interperater for
lightwave that should alow you to make your idea's into plugin's much
easier. Some how, if your programmer friends are so eager to write
plug-ins, I think they'll show up at your house with the source code, or
at least a disk for the SDK... Newtek should encourage plug-ins, and they
are, but a partialy functioning version of lightwave would never work for
developement, besides, why couldn't they test them on your copy?


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From: [e-mail] (Ken Tylman)
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Subject: Demo's and Music
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Any art directors out there care if a prospective employee uses
copyrighted music in their demo?
--------------------
     Ken Tylman
   [e-mail]
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From: Bob Lindabury <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave on a Win95 PC?
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 07:27:10 -0400
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Stuart Smith wrote:
> Try getting MagnaRam95. I found it absolutely useless at first..but I either set
something up
> wrong or something...on re-install, LW loads scenes MUCH faster... the blimp one
loads in 2 or 3
> secs, compared with 2 mins of HD thrashing before.....Also since it compressed to
HD, LW thinks
> it has double as much pages memory too.
>
> p.s. I have P90 with 16 megs.

Is MagnaRam95 commercial or Shareware/PD?  If it's available via FTP, please tell us
where it is.

-- Bob Lindabury
[e-mail]                 The NEW Graphics BBS
http://www.graphics.rent.com           Main line: +1 908/469-0049
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From: [e-mail] (Uberscott)
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Subject: Re: Asteroids Revisitedd
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The person to ask would be the guy who did them, Karl Denham. He can be
reached at [e-mail].

Scott
Area 51

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Subject: Re: Zip Drive?
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In article <47vvf6$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Mark A Cohen) wrote:
>I can't get my drive to install correctly! It doesn't want to recognize the
>zip tools disk. I've gone through all the troubleshooting that is in the
>manuals, but it just doesn't work. Any help or suggestions would be greatly
>appreciated.

Even under DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11, I couldn't install the SCSI ZIP drive correctly.
When it got to the Windows part, it couldn't do something to the ZIPTOOLS disk
and inevitably screwed up some of my groups.  I've pretty much ignored the
ZipTools anyway and under 6.22 (after running GUEST), Win95 and WinNT, I can
deal with ZIP disks just fine and handle the disks like any normal device.
I'm NOT sure of how the Parallel port version would be handled though.

Dan

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Thompson)
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Subject: Lightwave under Win3.x?
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I'm salivating over Lightwave on the PC.  But will it run under Windows
3.1/3.11?  Or do I need (shudder) to upgrade to Win95?  If it will run
under 3.1/3.11, what do I need to do to run it?

Thanks!
Paul


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From: [e-mail] (Jonte)
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Hi!
Why can´t I import objects from 3DS?? Actually I can, but they do not
look as they should! I also have problems making objects out of
Windows Truetype fonts, which Lightwave _should_ manage! The objects
created does not have any "holes", if you get my point.

/Jonte


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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 manuals
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:31:57
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In article <4807n2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JBooth411) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
>Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 manuals
>Date: 10 Nov 1995 14:04:02 -0500

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
>writes:

>>Well, Jay, you're going to have to start hitting those manuals a little
>>harder, that's all there is to it.
>>
>>

>    You mean you guys read the manuals? With an interface like lightwaves,
>you barely need the manuals!!!

New thread: "Is reading computer graphics manuals cheating?"

Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave under Win3.x?
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In article <480mgm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Thompson) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Paul Thompson)
>Subject: Lightwave under Win3.x?
>Date: 10 Nov 1995 23:16:38 GMT

>I'm salivating over Lightwave on the PC.  But will it run under Windows
>3.1/3.11?  Or do I need (shudder) to upgrade to Win95?  If it will run
>under 3.1/3.11, what do I need to do to run it?

>Thanks!
>Paul

Actually, Win 3.1 is specified. Win95 isn't officially supported, but people
seem to be doing it.

The upgrade that you really ought to make is to NT--you get a substantial
decrease in rendering times, and the whole thing is a *lot* more stable.

I don't know what the minimum requirement in RAM is under Win3.1, but I can
almost guarantee that you'll want more...



Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (The Man)
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Subject: Re: ANYONE HAVE PHOTOSTYLER (Not Photoshop, PHOTOSTYLER) - I do!
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Photoshop is simply too big a design program.  If you're into high-end,
photo and graphic designing then it is the way to go, but you must have
high-end equipment.  I'm surprised at Aldus dropping Photostyler.  Here's
a program you can easily get in and out of, it runs faster than Photoshop
and you can do some nifty image manipulation, about as much as the
average DTP designer will use.  I have both, but use Photostyler most.


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From: [e-mail] (Theodore Terranova)
Subject: Re: Lightwave 4.0 manuals
Date: 11 Nov 95 20:04:37 -0800
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I love the Manuals.  They are a thousand times better than the
imagine manuals and so easy to use.  I've only had LW for 2 weeks and
already feel that I can use it effectively.  Whats great is the
amount of depth to the program functions and manual.  I don't see how
anyone could ever claim to have mastered LW, its more of a continual
growth.  I also Have the f/x kit for lightwave and have found this
book to be very helpful in pointing out basic tricks and methods that
might otherwise take months to develop.

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From: ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: To some of you Lightwave experts...
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khufu <[e-mail]> writes:

>I don't have the program yet but I was wondering if some of you more
>experienced Lightwave modelers could upload some samples of your work in
>FLIC, AVI or any other form of animation created by Lightwave. I've tried
>www.newtek.com but they don't have any available for download yet. Anything
>would be appreciated, Thanks.
>
>khufu.

hey dude, check out Mortal Kombat 3 in the arcades or on the Playstation.  All
of the 3D graphics (but one or two minor things) were done with Lightwave.

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From: [e-mail] (John Crookshank)
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Subject: Re: RGB output error!
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On 10-Nov-95 18:00:03, Nemickol ([e-mail]) posted:

>     I loaded LW 4.0 revision B yeterday,(Win3.1)
>     and can no longer save rendered still immages
>     as .tga's.  I get the following message
>     at the end of the rendering:

>         Error
>     Can't open RGB output file.

>     Thus, no saved stills, and I don't know
>     what this error means to try and fix it. Help!
>     I assume its some button I haven't pushed
>     or something simple...

>     Thanks in advance!

I've seen this message myself a couple of times, when the hard disk was
full, and when the network I was saving to went down. Food for thought...
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Article: 7381
From: [e-mail] (Theodore Terranova)
Subject: RE: PAR problem
Date: 11 Nov 95 20:14:10 -0800
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DPS won't say if they ever plan to support Win 95.  Does anyone else
feel like they're giving us the bone.  I've only had mine for 9
months and they stopped supporting the product?  I'd even pay a few
bucks for new drivers but DPS doesn't seem to give a shit since the
perception is out.  Maybe they expect us to all go buy perception
boards, of course with no trde in value to DPS.  I read a letter from
a DPS guy saying that they don't take trade ins or upgrades to the
perceptio from the PAR because its so easy to sell a used PAR.  NOT
WITH Obsolete DRIVERS.  I hope DPS gets the message from all of us
who are dissapointed in their reaction to WIN 95.  They have chosen
to ignore a large portion of their consumer base.

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From: [e-mail] (Lisa)
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In article <47pbch$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Well I finally have to announce the close of tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu to
incoming, this is the first step in the shutdown of the
> site. If anyone out there would like to mirror tomahawk (current files
as of 11/7/95) please
> let me know I have a 80MB gzipped file of tomahawk's ftp dir that I can
ftp to you. If not
> I will be back online as soon as this net connection gets put in my
house. (this is taking way
> too long.)
>
>
> Thanks for all the support over the past year !
>
>
> Keith CHristopher.

Karma.

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From: [e-mail] (Patricia Beals)
Subject: Character Animation
Date: 11 Nov 95 20:17:15 -0800
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Can anyone tell me if there is a tutorial out there that can be
explicit on the use of bones on character animations in the Lightwave
4.0 system?

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I have 40 megs and I too am using virtual. I think the more you have
just means the more it needs. Just like money, you can never have
enough.

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From: [e-mail] (Blake Porter)
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Have 2 need only one due to Flyer.

Very very few hours use.

Original box, Instructions etc.

Whats it worth?

---Blake Porter
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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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In article <482kt4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Cable) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jim Cable)
>Subject: Dreads
>Date: 11 Nov 1995 17:01:24 GMT

>Help! I have been trying to model a skull with a Bob Marley haircut.  I have
>tried using cylinders that are jittered and metaformed but the finished product
> ends up looking like Medusa.  Any ideas?

A modeller plugin called Fiber Factory does hair. It gives control over droop,
length, kink, and more.

I haven't used it myself yet, but there was a tutorial
in the first issue of Lightspeed that gave a good look at it. For the most
part, I thought the results lacked something in realism, but it would probably
do a pretty good job with dreadlocks.

Natty Dread, Natty Dread...

Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Todd LeMoine)
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  I am currently animating an underwater scene and am having problems
creating what would be in essence a "projector" light in LW 4.0  I am
trying to project a tga file of an underwater texture onto the sea
floor.  I have tried the technique of mapping the tga as a color map
to a flat box, setting trans to 100% and shining a light through it
onto the floor, this prduced little if no projected image, is there
another way to go about this?
  Thanks in advance.
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From: "Justin S. Barrett" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: EXPLODE effect macro at Tomahawk!
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James Kewageshig wrote:

> Hello All,
> Well, I released it.  My Exploder macro is call 'Expl-v1.lzh' at
> ftp://tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu/pub/LW/arexx/

Any chance of porting this over to the PC as a 4.0 plugin?  Or maybe
we could get Bob to make a BML plugin...

Please?.....  :-)

--
Justin Barrett
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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Press Release: New A4000
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:14:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits) wrote:

>   That go(o)d awful OS (Windows NT) is, in my opinion, an order of
>magnitude better than AmigaDos. It's easier to manange files, it's
>easier to find files and do things to them, it's easier to organize
>programs, it looks better, ...it's easier, in short, to get things done.
>   If AmigaDos is/was so great, why did we all use Dir Opus, et al?

HeHe an early April Fouls joke it must be, I`ve used NT3.51 with and
without the 95 shell and I find it no where near as productive as the
Amiga OS, I always seem to be trying to get it to work rather than,
actually creating things with it, I`ve tried Win95 and that is
Microsofts biggest ever joke, and I won`t even mention OS2 :)
OK it is possible that I find the Amiga so friendly because I`ve been
using one since 1986, but then again I never spent 2 months trying to
format a Hard Drive on the Amiga like an experienced PC owner.

>   (Come to think of it, your typo DOES describe Windows NT fairly
>well: it IS Good... in an awful sort of way. :)

I must admit the NT Multi Tasking is not under any stretch of the
imagination Good, IMHO of course, not wanting a flame war over this,
I`ve had to many of them over this issue recently :).

>   An 040 @ 25 mhz faster than a current Pentium?

Nope, but at least the LW modeller dosn`t crash on an 040 :)

>   Yes, you probably will be able to put an 060 in it. But how much
>will it cost then, eh?

depends on the country I suppose, I can get the 060 version of the
4000 Tower for 200ukp more than the 040 version.

>   And if you want video and sound at current technology levels, you
>DO need to buy display cards and sound cards for the Amiga.

agreed, but you can easily manage on the basic spec for almost all
things, Lightwave will happily render into HAM8 mode that`s 262,000
colours on a basic spec machine, alright it`s not true 262,000 but
still not bad, and the sounds the Amigas humble 10 year old sound chip
produces is still wonderful.

>   Look, I wish the Amiga *would* come back and become a contender;

Same here, and the plans they have for it are very impressive, lets
hope they pull it off by early(ish) next year.

Nigel.

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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
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Subject: Re: LW w/ dual Pentiums
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>Anyone using AMI's Titan II dual pentium mb? How does LW best utilize the
>two cpu's?

AFAIK, you have to use ScreamerNet II to render on each processor like
you would over a normal ScreamerNet setup.

Page 158 of the Lightwave user Guide mentions this method, there may
be other ways.

Nigel.

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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
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[e-mail] (Ed Hoffmann) wrote:

>: Does any one have the phone number for the publisher/distributor of the Light
>: ROM CD series?  I think it is Graphics Design.

On the back of the box the address is,

Amiga Library Services
610 North Alma School Road - Suite 18
Chandler, Arizona 85224-3687 USA

Voice/Fax [phone]

email: [e-mail]

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>Could anyone tell me what the minimum amiga configuration for a PAR is? I
>have a A2000 sitting around, and wanted to put it to good use...

DPS don`t actually quote a minimum spec for the Amiga version but an
030 or better would be my suggested minimum processor, and you would
probably need 2-4mb RAM as always the more the merrier, and of course
you need a decent AV HardDisk, DPS recommend certain types when you
order.

Hope That Helps

Nigel.
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I received the first issue a couple days ago, and I'm impressed,
for the most part.  I was also beginning to wonder if it would ever
really show up, and I'm glad it did.  I'll probably subscribe.

--
Justin Barrett
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From: [e-mail] (Brion Sohn)
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I'll add to this thread, as a student at ArtCenter, I have access to use
the full alias package, It is a given that the computer can make anything
look good, however if you look past the medium (which is all the computer
is) the basics of Drawing, Proportion, Composition, Design, ect... must be
there otherwise the art will be bad just as there are bad paintings, so in
computer art there are going to be vering(sp?) degrees of quality as there
art in painting, a 14 year old on a computer will never be as good as
DiVinci on a computer with the same knowlege of the computer.

So In the question is computer art cheating, No it's not, It's just
another Paint Brush.

Thanks,
Brion
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (James Macleod)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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In article <47vrtp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] () says:

>  First where did you get the $3000 price ?

900 US = approx 1200 canadian  X 3 copies, not to mention access to Alpha and Amiga versions.

Necessary for what I want to do, as the programmers claim it would take them at least 5 months.

Maybe we could work somethign out with email...who knows...

We will buy the software just cant do that until Febuary.



> stripped to the level of Imagine LT would be pretty useless as a development
> tool, and would not promote LW's greatest strengths.



I didnt say this.  It was an idea for discussion.  I quite plainly said I do not
know how to do it.

It turns out that contacting newtek there is a possibilty to work something out.









For the dinks, please stop sending me shitty mail calling me an idiot.


It was just an idea, I am dreadfully sorry for posting it.


:(

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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Press Release: New A4000
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[e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits) wrote:

>   Let's see... that roughly comparable in speed and capacity to a
>486/33 with no monitor.
>
>   Tell me it's gonna sell for $699...   :)

But the Amiga dosn`t have to suffer the Good awful OS that the PC does
so you will find it is so much faster because it dosn`t waste more
than half it`s CPU time running the OS, plus of course it has the
wonderful Custom Chips which takes the load of the processor redrawing
screens etc, and to top it all off you can get the 060 version which
will easily beat a high spec Pentium, and I won`t even mention with
the Amiga you don`t have to buy Video Cards, Sound Cards, IO Cards,
you don`t have to suffer IRQ conflicts, and the crowning glory it Muti
Task properly.

Nigel.

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From: [e-mail] (Nigel Critten)
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>Wow, no RISC?  No new chipset?  Why, this sounds like the same old Amiga!

How about giving Amiga Tech. a chance, they have achived a minor
miracle getting both the 1200 and 4000 out again before christmas, new
machines are on the way but developers are unlikely to get them before
the spring and the released later in the year.

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Does anyone know of a program either on the Amiga, PC or SGI that can
create animations in various types, like AVI`s, Quicktime, and IFF
Anim5-8 files? the AVI saver that comes with LW4 is good but not
always good enough.

TIA

Nigel.

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You may want to try World Render 3D. It is both a modeler and Translator.
You may build entire scenes from scratch and then export them to 21
different file formats. Formats include POV, Imagine, 3DStudio, Lightwave,
WaveFront, DXF, RenderMorphics, more, more....
With World Render 3D you may import data from another format and then
save it out to yet another format.

Contact:
MAZAR Software Corporation
1801 N.E. 197 Terrace
N.Miami Beach, FL 33179

Phone:[phone]

To Download a DEMO:
ftp to:
ftp.povray.org
cd /pub/povray/uploads/utilities
copy
wr3ddemo.txt
wr3ddemo.zip

It's an older version but you'll get the idea.


On 7 Nov 1995, Rick Figley wrote:

> I'm still looking for how to go about converting DXF objects for 3D
> Studio to Lightwave 3.0. Can anyone help?
>
> Rick Figley
> [e-mail]
>
>

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Subject: Re: LW vs. Animation Master
Date: 11 Nov 95 20:12:11 -0800
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I have both. Am is extreemly easy for character animations but lacks
the power for all those neat special effects we have grown to love on
t.v. Babalyon 5 and Star trek and Herculies and Seaquest must know
something. I wonder what system Disney used to make Toy Story?

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From: [e-mail] (CGI GROUP)
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Yes, I too get a 30% increase with NT.  I have used LW on a P90 for 6
months now.  The day I read that NT was faster than 3.1, I bought NT 3.5.
Not only was it faster, I could use long file names as I do with the
Amiga.

I will soon have four PC nwtworked together, so I will reply on the
difference on Screamer Net on 3.1 vs. NT.




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[e-mail] (Paul Thompson) wrote:

>I'm salivating over Lightwave on the PC.  But will it run under Windows
>3.1/3.11?  Or do I need (shudder) to upgrade to Win95?  If it will run
>under 3.1/3.11, what do I need to do to run it?

Its a Win32 application that works happily under Win 3.11 once the Win32s
extensions are installed. These extensions are included with LightWave,
or you may already have them from MicroSoft Office or a number of other
programs released in the last 2 years.

Prevailing wisdom seems to be that it will be happier when run under
Windows NT, though that might cause you to spend more than you want
on hardware and software upgrades.

Good luck,

John.



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[e-mail] (Patricia Beals) wrote:
>I have both. Am is extreemly easy for character animations but lacks
>the power for all those neat special effects we have grown to love on
>t.v. Babalyon 5 and Star trek and Herculies and Seaquest must know
>something. I wonder what system Disney used to make Toy Story?


   Well from what I here they used Pixar as their render engine and wrote
their own modeler for it. Did all the work on Suns and not SGI's belive
it or not.

Regards,

     Michael W. Towe





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From: [e-mail] (Kim Thomas)
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Ken Tylman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Any art directors out there care if a prospective employee uses
: copyrighted music in their demo?

If you want to make yourself look as unprofessional as possible, do it.
One of the places I used to work at would toss reels in the trash that
contained unlicensed music. Just like using copied software, copying
music for your reel is illegal and generally not a good idea.

There are music libraries available for low cost, where you pay a fee for
the collection, and then can use the music in any project you desire.
Check ads in various video/audio magazines (AV Video is full of them).
--
Dave Thomas
Moving Pixels
"I haven't actually read your script, but I have
some questions about it" - Actual client quote
[e-mail]

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>   [e-mail] (candyman) writes:
>  >[e-mail] (candyman) wrote:
>
>  >>      try shift-w,o,return,cntl-a
>
>  >Yes, thank you! not... I mean the inner bit of the "o" is not a "hole"
>  >but something messy. I want to look through a "O"!!!
>
>  >Is it because of truetype?
>
>      hmm why not just load an o from both types and look.. or better yet
>  extrude a disc and boolean it out...

    Extruding a disk and Boolean subtracting it would be the LEAST
    efficient way to do it:  use DRILL instead.

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On Fri, 10 Nov 95, Paul wrote:

>
> If only the world was full of poly-woofters like you, the world would
> be worth living in. I hope thats a registered copy of NT, or did you
> get it from Bill Gates for payment in the morning????????????
>
> PS. Wankers never get aids.
>

Ha!, mr Keating I presume. Give us a bell, I've mislaid my phonebook.

Gwynne.

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[e-mail] (Oblivion) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James
>Hastings-Trew) wrote:
>
>> While there are some art theories that go so far as to say that the medium
>> is as important as the content (imagery, composition, colour, space) this
>> is a particularly modern theory. It goes against the bulk of art history
>> where the medium used was irrelevant to the presentation of the
>> art/image/idea. Does it matter if the painting you are looking at was done
>> in egg tempra vs. oils vs. acrylic? Would the content of the painting
>> dictate to a degree the media used? Some artists would state emphatically,
>> "Yes!"

The medium is crucial. Period. If it doesn't matter what medium is being used, why paint? It's anacronistic.  Western Union (or the
Internet) is more efficent.

>>However, I have travelled in art circles, and know that those who
>> make these statements are usually ignorant of any medium other than the one
>> they chose/stumbled onto -- the "perfect" medium for their work is the one
>> they have always/will always use -- how convenient. How many current art
>> school graduates have even used oil paints or egg tempra, now that the
>> horrid and flat acrylic has all but taken over?
>>
You've either been looking at a lot of bad student art or those artists have been using cheepo acrylics. Acrylic technology has advanced
(since you last looked) and is now capable of a greater range of painterly surfaces than oil.  Oil painting, however, still gets top billing in
most places. This is like arguing the merits of Steinway pianos over Casios.


>> Choice of media certainly is one of the esthetic choices I alluded to in my
>> eariler arguments. Why choose the computer to convey a certain content --
>> i.e. is it the most appropriate medium for a particular purpose? As in all
>> arts, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes it is important, and sometimes
>> it isn't. I would be suspicious of a digital artist who always uses the
>> same tool, no matter what the content or message of the work is. As the old
>> saying goes, "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a
>> nail." This is how bad art often gets created, digital or not.

The confusion here is whether the computer is a tool or a medium. I think this is the crux of the issue. As a tool, the computer is a
marvelous and versitile instrument for making art. As a medium it offers a very limited aesthetic experience.  It's little better than the
phone as a medium for art. (Remember the answering-machine-messages-as-art craze?)
>>

>> This does not cut any ice with me. I got my fine-arts degree in
>> printmaking, a set of media that is by its very nature a
>> reproductive/replicative one. Is a Durher etching any less of a work of art
>> than a DaVinci drawing, even though multiple copies exist of one, while
>> only one exists of the other? It also raises an interesting point -- is art
>> reproduced in coffee-table and text-books not "art" simply because the
>> content is conveyed by a different media? Is the tangible, unique piece of
>> workmanship the art, or is the image/idea conveyed the art? Is music on a
>> CD, or is music only to be found in the concert hall? I wonder, because
>> your choices here do have ramifications for art which is by its very nature
>> replicated -- all digitial art, all performance art, all recorded music.

I realize that the art reproduction issue was oversimplified. Yea the coffee table book can show you the idea of the sculpture (in a
severely limited way) but cannot very well convey  the aesthetic EXPERIENCE of art which is sensual and immediate in the presence of the
thing.
I have no problem with art multiples.  It's that art loses something in the translation (from one medium to another). Again, the medium
is crucial.  It's what embodies form and conveys the idea.
>>
>
>Couldn't have said it any better myself!
>
>Art is whats perceived in the mind and not the tools to create it. What was
>concidered in the past to be mistakes are now considered methods! The problem
>with old-school artists is the fact that they, without the willingness to take
>the time to continually learn new mediums, make statments about a medium not
>being considered art because of all the money they see themselves losing in the
>future. Art is what you make of it. The comment made in the above quote about
>"those who make these statements are usually ignorant of any medium other than
>the one they chose/stumbled onto" is very true. You may not consider those
>little 3d sterio posters art, but do you think the guy creating them cares with
>all the money he's making?
>Art has to be something you enjoy doing and not what you "HAVE" to be doing. If
>artists in the 18th century had the technology of the 90's, you would probably
>never have heard of a thing called "PAINT".
>In another 100 years, people will be going to museum's to laughing at what we
>considered to be computers. Its called evolution! Sarcasm will never make anyone
>money.
>
What's money got to do with it?  This discussion ought to be carried on it the Newsgroup ''rec. fine arts''. I'm going to post it there.



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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
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fredie@churchill (Fredie.Layberger) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Mike Powell) writes:
>:
>:     OK... it appears that there are a number of problems
>:     that can cause the LFN's to die, which is an important
>:     issue to LW Intel users running W95.
>:
>
>Another option to use a program like "Instant File Access"
>which enables you to use Long File Names with programs
>that don't yet support the longer file names possible
>with Windows95. Instant File Access works with Win95
>and can downloaded. I don't recall exactly where I
>downloaded it form but it's file name is: IFA400B4.ZIP.
>
>I have not been using it for long so I can't say yet
>that it will work with every progams, but so far so good.
>

ftp.sunet.se

/pub/pc/windows/mirror-cica/win95/uploads


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From: [e-mail] (James Macleod)
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Subject: Re: Anyone using a PVR or Flyer with a RAID?
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In article <4805o8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ToastRGuy) says:
>
>StoragePath swears that their RAID will work fine for the Flyer, but for
>$3,795 (Before Hard Drives) you could buy a Seagate 9 Gig with the new
>4304 firmware and have almost enough leftover for a Quantum 4 Gig.


Yah but the people that want to buy it dont really care, if it will give you better quality.

They are fully prepared to pay as much as 50 000 for the hard drives alone, if a 4 000 dollar RAID will
improve the quality, stability, consistency it is nothign to them.  If they have to spend one single day
dicking with hard drives they dont want it.

Has anyone seen a RAID running on either a Flyer or PVR at 6+ MBs second consistently?

What does the 4304 firmware give you?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

:)

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From: [e-mail] (Greg Smith)
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>addition to a new renderer (ie rent and a VTR).  Lightwave has been spoken
of
>as being much better than 3DS R4, and is of course much more cost
effective.

If you want to be cautious about it, you can get both Lightwave and 3DS4.
Lightwave is about as expensive as a couple of 3DS plug ins and it may have
a few functions that aren't available as plug ins for 3ds, as well as
possibly nicer looking output. Maybe you could get Lightwave first, and
then decide.

--
Bye....Greg...
Back off man I'm a Scientist.






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From: [e-mail] (Threedelux)
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Subject: Re: Open GL plugin...
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Last week at the Video Toaster show I saw Fiori's open GL api running in
LightWave's modeler on an Alpha. It was displaying the space ship that
comes with Lightwave fully rendered in realtime (no texture maps) and
rotating. Further more  Stuart Ferguson trippled the polygons and mirrored
the model and streached the screen to about 640x? and the API didnt miss a
beat though it slowed down only slightly.
I would expect to see this plugin before the year is out but don't quote
me.
Johnny B

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Anyone using AMI's Titan II dual pentium mb? How does LW best utilize the
two cpu's?




   Greg Milneck, Jr.

      The Video Company

           Baton Rouge, LA, USA


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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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In article <4834jo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CGI GROUP) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (CGI GROUP)
>Subject: Re: Windows NT and Lightwave
>Date: 11 Nov 1995 16:29:28 -0500

>Yes, I too get a 30% increase with NT.  I have used LW on a P90 for 6
>months now.  The day I read that NT was faster than 3.1, I bought NT 3.5.
>Not only was it faster, I could use long file names as I do with the
>Amiga.

Even without the gain in rendering speed, NT is worth the price for the added
stability, data integrity, and multitasking. I love it...





Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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In <47rq55$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>

>>     Every other program I've tried loads from the PVR slick as a whistle.
>
>    Quick note:  the other day Photoshop repeatedly would not load
IFFs
>created by the PVR.
>
>    Disclaimer: on MY machine, MY software, at THAT phase of the
moon, etc...
>
>
>**********************************************************************
******
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>

Ok, you made me look.

I tried loading the same file in BMP, TGA and IFF formats, with no
problems.

The full moon was last Tuesday....must have been the day you tried it.

Elliot Bain

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Help! I have been trying to model a skull with a Bob Marley haircut.  I have
tried using cylinders that are jittered and metaformed but the finished product
 ends up looking like Medusa.  Any ideas?


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>   Well from what I here they used Pixar as their render engine and wrote
>their own modeler for it. Did all the work on Suns and not SGI's belive
>it or not.

They used MenV mainly with a little Alias, on SGIs, and sent it all
out to be rendered with RenderMan on a network of Suns.

Jeff







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Subject: Lightwave Demo on the Web
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NewTek has an online version of LW4 on the Web.  Very neat to look at, though
not very explanatory as to what it can do.  You can press the buttons and look
at the menus and stuff but nothing else.  Still very cool.
                            -Eric



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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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When the NewTek AVI requestor appears there is a little
slider bar at the bottom of the window..this is how you select
the compression quality..

HIIP AVI saver has no options and it is very bad anyway.

Adam

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From: [e-mail] (Ed Hoffmann)
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Louisville, KY 40214

1-800-265-4041

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Who?Me ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi,

: Does any one have the phone number for the publisher/distributor of the Light
: ROM CD series?  I think it is Graphics Design.

: Thanks

: Matt

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From: [e-mail] (DAN BLOOMFIELD)
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Subject: Textures for dinos?
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In a message dated 11-07-95 at 11:11, LUKE PIASECKI wrote:

LP>Hi there, I'm trying to render and later animate some realistic looking
LP>dinosaurs. For the objects I think I'll go for Jurassic collection (for LW
LP>) or try to modell something similar on Real3D 3.3. My main problem are
LP>the textures... what kind of and where could I get them from? I have no
LP>idea how to "texture" a dino object so it looks almost as realistic as the
LP>ones in Jurassic Park...please help me. Where can I get them from? Also I
LP>have to my disposal Imagine 3.3 and Forge with Essence so I could render
LP>some of the textures and use them as brush maps in LW or Real3D, the
LP>problem again is which ones and how...

In LW 4.0 try using the crumple texture as a bump map with a texture size of
1.0, number of scales 4, small power 2, and an amplitude of 25%. Also use
bump array in either the color or diffuse channel with a radius of
.01,spacing .005, and bump strength -.5. On the Jurrasic T-Rex it looks good
to me, and because it's all algorithmic you want have any problems fitting
an image map onto a curved surface.


 ** MS QWiK v4.3 [UNREG] for Amiga **


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From: [e-mail] (Theodore Terranova)
Subject: Re: Zip Drive?
Date: 12 Nov 95 17:13:24 -0800
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In article <47vvf6$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Mark A Cohen) wrote:
>I can't get my drive to install correctly! It doesn't want to recognize the
>zip tools disk. I've gone through all the troubleshooting that is in the
>manuals, but it just doesn't work. Any help or suggestions would be greatly
>appreciated.


I just put in a SCSI ZIP under WIN 95 and it works fine.  I had to
mess around with some conflicts but got it running finally.  I also
downloaded the latest drivers from IOMEGA for WIN 95.  If you could
give more specific info on oyur type of system and drive etc. maybe
we could help.

TED

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: VTU Expo
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[e-mail] (H.R. Laser) writes:
> I'll never in my life forget what the ass-end of Chiago looked like
> as the train pulled into Union Station.  Bombed-out graffiti-covered
> multi-story buildings with not one intact glass windoww
> that compared very nicely with the worst news footage you've ever
> seen come out of Beiruit or Bosnia.

Hey, thats my home town your talkin about!

> At any minute I was expecting the mutants to leap out and attack our train.

I was busy at the time :-) Would you believe I once walked from Union
Station to the Lake street L at 2am in shorts and a tshirt with a
$25K broadcast camera (without a camera case). Yeah, some areas look
like your worst nightmare in hell, and I don't think I'll ever move
back (now in New England). But I'd take Chi-town over LA in a second.
And LA air quality is worse than Chicago and NY combined.
     *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
     *           Mark Thompson                  [phone]    *
     *         Fusion Films, Inc.             [e-mail]  *
     * Director of Animation and Special FX                       *
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From: [e-mail] (al urbaitis)
Subject: Re: AIRWOLF ?
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>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett) writes:
>>Hi All,
>>recently the London TV network started showing AIRWOLF, only about
>>5 shows. And I always liked the program mainly because of the bitchin
>>looking helicopter.
>>
>>Well I want to do an AIRWOLF object in LW as my first serious object
>>project and I'm looking for pics, design drawings, ect anything that will
>>help me. Please if U have anything that I can use please email me soon as
I believe that there is a plastic model kit of the 222.
I have found that plastic model kits very useful as references
for most complex 3D objects.

They often include decals that can be adapted as brushmaps
via a scanner.

al




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From: [e-mail] (Boback Shahsafdari)
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[e-mail] (al urbaitis) wrote:


>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Andrew Barnett) writes:
>>>Hi All,
>>>recently the London TV network started showing AIRWOLF, only about
>>>5 shows. And I always liked the program mainly because of the bitchin
>>>looking helicopter.
>>>
>>>Well I want to do an AIRWOLF object in LW as my first serious object
>>>project and I'm looking for pics, design drawings, ect anything that will
>>>help me. Please if U have anything that I can use please email me soon as
>I believe that there is a plastic model kit of the 222.
>I have found that plastic model kits very useful as references
>for most complex 3D objects.

>They often include decals that can be adapted as brushmaps
>via a scanner.

>al


I'm glad somebody had the good sense of going back to the original
subject since I'm also interested. (notice all the mistakes yet???)

Boback